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Shane Legg

Chief AGI Scientist, Google DeepMind · 1 appearance on the record.

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Shane Legg co-founded DeepMind Technologies in 2010 alongside Demis Hassabis and Mustafa Suleyman, which was acquired by Google in 2014. A pioneer in theoretical models of machine intelligence, he helped popularize the term AGI and leads Google DeepMind's Technical AGI Safety efforts.

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2 supported 0 partly supported 0 contradicted 3 not checkable as stated how the 5 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

2 predictions · 3 assertions · 1 opinion · 4 insights · 1 disclosure · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 5 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Shane argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
OpenAI realized Google's Transformer architecture scaled far better than anyone appreciated
“Another company, OpenAI, latched onto the idea that this is, in fact, extremely scalable, more scalable than anybody had appreciated. And they just basically scaled it up and scaled it up and scaled it up.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 18:23 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind

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Everything Shane Legg said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shane Legg estimates a 50% chance of AGI by 2028
“So I actually came up with an estimate then that it was about a 50% chance of what I call AGI now by about 20 28.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 8:42 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Insight
Shane Legg defines AGI as matching all typical human cognitive tasks
“And to be clear, the way I define artificial general intelligence is it's an artificial agent that can do all the kinds of cognitive tasks that people can typically do and possibly more.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 8:55 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Insight
Shane Legg argues there is no feasible global way to halt AI
“Intelligence is profoundly valuable for many, many reasons, and I don't know of any way to globally get everybody to stop using and developing this very, very valuable technology. And so, as far as I can see, this will be developed”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 23:06 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Legg: AI will surpass human-level AGI to achieve artificial superintelligence
“So that definition of AGI to me is the bar, that's the entry level into AGI, but I do not think that's where it stops. I think you start going into what they call ASI, or artificial superintelligence, and it may be the case in certain dimensions is the scaling…”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 29:33 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Assertion Supported
OpenAI realized Google's Transformer architecture scaled far better than anyone appreciated
“Another company, OpenAI, latched onto the idea that this is, in fact, extremely scalable, more scalable than anybody had appreciated. And they just basically scaled it up and scaled it up and scaled it up.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 18:23 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Assertion Supported
DeepMind folded all known proteins; 1.7 million researchers use the database
“What we did is we folded all the proteins known to science, and we released them all to the public for free, so you can find them all online on the internet, and you can look at the shapes and so on, and we've had about 1.7 million researchers use that resourc…”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 16:28 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Opinion
Shane Legg says the AI transition will rival the Industrial Revolution
“We're going into something which is at least as profound as the Industrial Revolution.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 24:38 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Insight
Shane Legg argues AI safety cannot be solved by private companies alone
“It's not going to be solved By some people in a company somewhere. That's not how it's going to work. It's something that society as a whole needs to engage with, because that's the nature of the transformation which is working.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 32:15 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Legg: DeepMind's 2010 business plan was one sentence to build AGI
“Our business plan from September, 2010 had our logo on the front and DeepMind, and it had one sentence, which is build the world's first artificial general intelligence.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 10:02 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Disclosure
Google merged DeepMind and Google Brain because separate scaling made no sense
“It was becoming clear that extremely scaled up models were going to become a really important thing in the future. And, you know, for Google it was important that we had the biggest and best models. And it doesn't make sense to have, you know, two different gr…”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 19:38 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind
Insight
Legg: Modern supercomputers exceed human brain limits by 6-7 orders of magnitude
“So if you look at energy consumption, physical space, speed of signal transmission, and the frequency on the signal, you're looking at six to seven orders of magnitude in every direction, just with present day technology.”
Shane Legg Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 28:38 AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
AI is smarter than you think with Shane Legg of Google DeepMind Apr 11, 2024 21m
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