Ron Shaich

CEO & Managing Partner, Act III Holdings · 2 appearances on the record.

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Ron Shaich is the co-founder of Au Bon Pain and the founder and former CEO of Panera Bread. He currently serves as the CEO and managing partner of Act III Holdings.

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8 supported 5 partly supported 2 contradicted 2 not yet assessed 4 not checkable as stated how the 21 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

21 assertions · 1 opinion · 4 insights · 4 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 21 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 15 are resolved, 2 are not yet assessed, and 4 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Ron argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Shaich: Panera tripled its stock price during the Great Recession
“We said this is the time to build competitive advantage, and ultimately we tripled the stock through the recession.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 31:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Shaich: VCs controlled 3 of 5 board votes during Au Bon Pain divestment fight
“It was a huge boardroom struggle, because I had two votes, our venture capitalists had three, and all of them had invested in Au Bon Pain.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 27:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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Everything Ron Shaich said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Shaich: Public markets force CEOs into short-term cost-cutting over transformative bets
“There's a pervasive sense of short-termism that has invaded our markets. The reality is, when you have such short-term pressure on our CEOs, they react. And what that ends up meaning is cost-cutting. And they avoid the kind of transformative events that drove …”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 34:35 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Partly supported
Shaich: Au Bon Pain was the first example of fast casual dining
“And for people who were working in white collar jobs increasingly in urban settings, this was the first example of what we later came to call fast casual. This was an attempt to do something that was better But in a quick service mode.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 19:32 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Insight
Shaich: Public market short-termism forces CEOs into cost-cutting over transformative bets
“There's a pervasive sense of short-termism that has invaded our markets. The reality is, when you have such short-term pressure on our CEOs, they react. And what that ends up meaning is cost-cutting. And they avoid the kind of transformative events that drove …”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 34:03 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Shaich won a board battle with two votes against VCs' three
“It was a huge boardroom struggle, because I had two votes, our venture capitalists had three, and all of them had invested in Au Bon Pain.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 27:59 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Supported
Shaich: Panera tripled its stock price during the Great Recession
“We said this is the time to build competitive advantage, and ultimately we tripled the stock through the recession.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 31:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shaich: Au Bon Pain pioneered the fast-casual restaurant category
“What the bakery cafe was an alternative between down and dirty fast food. And fine dining. And for people who were working in white collar jobs increasingly in urban settings, this was the first example of what we later came to call fast casual.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 19:58 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Insight
Shaich: 1990s fast food became commoditized 'gasoline stations' for humans
“Post-World War II, fast food was special. You fast forward it to 1990 with 60,000 drive-throughs in America. Fast food had become self-service gasoline stations for the human body, and the reality of it was, That there were many consumers that were holding the…”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 25:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Supported
Shaich: Panera stock surged 100x after selling off Au Bon Pain
“The stock has been up a hundredfold since then.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 28:39 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Supported
Panera Bread ultimately sold to JAB Holding for $315 per share
“And ended up selling for 315 a share.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 29:25 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Supported
Shaich: Panera tripled its stock price through the Great Recession
“We said this is the time to build competitive advantage, and ultimately we tripled the stock through the recession.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 31:58 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Insight
Shaich: Business is a political campaign that never ends
“But in so many ways, running a business is no different than a campaign. In fact, a campaign is a business that, that essentially has one day in which it ends. A business is a campaign that goes on and never ends.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 5:17 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Supported
Shaich: Took 60% equity to merge Cookie Jar into Au Bon Pain
“I came to them and said, look it, I think I can fix this. You give me 60% of the company. You and your investors keep 40%. I'll put my cookie store, which was making money, in with your three Obonpens, and we'll create a new company.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 13:05 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Insight
Shaich: 1990s fast food became like gasoline stations for the body
“Post-World War II, fast food was special. You fast forward it to the 1990 with 60,000 drive-throughs in America. Fast food had become self-service gasoline stations for the human body, and the reality of it was, That there were many consumers that were holding…”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 24:53 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Contradicted
Shaich: VCs controlled 3 of 5 board votes during Au Bon Pain divestment fight
“It was a huge boardroom struggle, because I had two votes, our venture capitalists had three, and all of them had invested in Au Bon Pain.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 27:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Disclosure
Shaich took 60 percent equity in the merger with Au Bon Pain
“You give me 60% of the company. You and your investors keep 40%. I'll put my cookie store, which was making money, in with your three Obonpens, and we'll create a new company.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 13:46 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Partly supported
Corporate giants Pepsi and Sara Lee launched failed rival bakery-cafes
“Pepsi came after us. They decided this was going to be the third leg of Pepsi food service, and they created something called La Petite Boulangerie. Sarah Lee came after us. They bought a chain called Michelle's Baguette, and they were going to open 400 stores…”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 20:50 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Disclosure
Au Bon Pain bought 19 St. Louis Bread stores for $23 million
“So, in November of 1993, we bought the St. Louis Bread Company, those 19 stores, for twenty-three million dollars.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 23:00 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Supported
Shaich: St. Louis Bread matched Au Bon Pain volume at half cost
“St. Louis Bread Company was generating volumes nearly as high as Au Bon Pain, but doing so in real estate that cost half as much.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 23:35 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Partly supported
Shaich: Panera opened a new store every three days around 2009
“Basically every three days.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 30:49 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Shaich owned six times more stock than co-founder Louis Kane
“I owned, you know, six times more stock than him, but most of the community at that point undoubtedly thought the company was Lou's.”
Ron Shaich Feb 10, 2020 ▶ 33:09 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018)
Assertion Partly supported
Shaich: Pepsi and Sara Lee launched major bakery chains to compete with Au Bon Pain
“Pepsi came after us. They decided this was going to be the third leg of Pepsi food service, and they created something called La Petite Boulangerette. Sarah Lee came after us. They bought a chain called Michelle's Baguette, and they were going to open 400 stor…”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 20:15 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Disclosure
Au Bon Pain acquired St. Louis Bread Company for $23M in 1993
“So in November of 1993, we bought the St. Louis Bread Company, those 19 stores, for twenty-three million dollars.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 22:26 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Supported
St. Louis Bread matched Au Bon Pain volumes at half real estate cost
“St. Louis Bread Company was generating volumes nearly as high as Au Bon Pain, But doing so in real estate that cost half as much.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 23:02 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich
Assertion Supported
Shaich: Panera Bread ultimately sold for $315 per share
“No, and it ended up selling for 315 a share.”
Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 ▶ 28:52 Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich

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Statements about Ron Shaich, by other people (1)

Disclosure
Panera founder Ron Shaich helped engineer CAVA's acquisition of Zoës Kitchen
“Zoës had approached him, and he said, you know, what do you think about if our investors put together the capital, we acquire it, and give it to you, Brett, and your team?”
Brett Schulman Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 1:00:57 CAVA: Ted Xenohristos and Brett Schulman

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich (2018) Feb 10, 2020 22m
Panera Bread/Au Bon Pain: Ron Shaich Apr 30, 2018 22m
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