Jerry Murrell

Founder and CEO, Five Guys · 2 appearances on the record.

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Jerry Murrell co-founded Five Guys with his family in Arlington, Virginia, in 1986. Under his leadership, the enterprise expanded into an international fast-casual brand with nearly 2,000 locations worldwide.

32statements → 16claims → 7claims resolved → 71%fully supported → 3.91/5average certainty → 1.22/5average debate potential → 12said about them ↓

5 supported 0 partly supported 2 contradicted 9 not checkable as stated how the 16 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

16 assertions · 4 insights · 12 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 16 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 7 are resolved, and 9 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Jerry argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Five Guys refined its restaurant model for 17 years before franchising
“Most franchisers start off to franchise. We didn't start off to franchise. We had no idea we were going to do that. We started off to build a family business, and we put 17 years into it, and we figured out how to do it right. So when it came time to franchisi…”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 19:56 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Murrell: Five Guys sold 3,500 U.S. franchises within two years
“And I think within a year and a half, or two years, we sold 3500. We sold the whole United States.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 23:12 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)

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Everything Jerry Murrell said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Disclosure
Five Guys targeted 30% food costs by raising prices, never cutting quality
“The kids didn't know why we were raising the prices, but we would always say food costs would stay around 30%. Whatever we gotta do, if we gotta raise prices, we raise prices. And we said, if we have to worry about price, we don't want to be in this business.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 13:33 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Disclosure
Five Guys funded early expansion using gross revenue share agreements
“We'd say, give us 5000 dollars, we'll give you a certain percentage of the Gross. Not, never the profit, because there was always too many ways to get cheap people that way. So I said, we'll give you a certain percentage of the gross. We'll give you the money …”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 16:21 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Insight
Murrell: Hidden real estate locations proved genuine customer demand
“And we said, well, if we can put it where, you know, it's hard to find, but if we can get people coming there, then we know we got something.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 7:12 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Disclosure
Murrell: Five Guys would rather raise prices than exceed 30% food costs
“We would always say, food costs would stay around 30%. Whatever we gotta do, if we gotta raise prices, we raise prices. And we said, if we have to worry about price, we don't want to be in this business.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 14:09 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Insight
Murrell: Five Guys perfected operations for 17 years before franchising
“Most franchisers start off to franchise. We didn't start off to franchise. We had no idea we were going to do that. We started off to build a family business, and we put 17 years into it, and we figured out how to do it right. So when it came time to franchisi…”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 20:52 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Contradicted
Murrell: Five Guys sold 3,500 U.S. franchises within two years
“And I think within a year and a half, or two years, we sold 3500. We sold the whole United States.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 23:12 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Insight
Murrell tested food viability by picking hidden, low-rent locations
“Well, if we can put it where, you know, it's hard to find, but if we can get people coming there, then we know we got something.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 6:36 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Supported
Five Guys refined its restaurant model for 17 years before franchising
“Most franchisers start off to franchise. We didn't start off to franchise. We had no idea we were going to do that. We started off to build a family business, and we put 17 years into it, and we figured out how to do it right. So when it came time to franchisi…”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 19:56 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Contradicted
Five Guys sold 3,500 U.S. franchise locations within two years
“And I think within a year and a half, or two years, we sold 3500. We sold the whole United States.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 22:16 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Disclosure
Jerry Murrell and his family still own 75% of Five Guys
“We own about 75% of the company, me and my family.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 25:38 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Murrell: Five Guys opened its first location with just $35,000
“Our first story put 35,000 dollars in it.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 7:33 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Murrell: Five Guys was profitable from its very first day
“And we made money from our very first day, and we were breaking even, and we were paying our rent.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 9:56 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Murrell: Five Guys' original potato supplier is now a multimillionaire
“Now he's become a multimillionaire because we buy all our potatoes from him.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 11:13 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Murrell: Five Guys initially paid seven times McDonald's price for buns
“We were paying about seven times For a hamburger bun as McDonald's was then.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 12:23 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Disclosure
Murrell: Early investors got a cut of gross revenue, not profit
“We'd say, give us 5000 dollars, we'll give you a certain percentage of the gross, not never the profit, because there was always too many ways to get cheap people that way.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 17:18 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Supported
Murrell: Five Guys has built ~1,400 stores and sold out all US territory
“We've got about 1400 of them built out now, but all the territory in the United States is gone.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 25:00 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Disclosure
Murrell: The Murrell family still owns 75% of Five Guys
“We own about 75% of the company, me and my family.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 26:35 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Assertion Supported
Five Guys corporate owns roughly 450 US stores and 50% of 60 European stores
“Out of the, out of about 14, 1500 restaurants, we have a joint venture in Great Britain and France and Germany where we own With our partner, half. That's about 60 stores. And then over here, we own about 450 out of the 1400.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 26:56 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Disclosure
Murrell: High school friends who bought early Five Guys stock became millionaires
“When I started Five Guys, I let three or four of my buddies that I went to high school with buy stock in my company, because I thought it would be a great thing for them, because they didn't have money. A little bit, they had a little bit of money, but not muc…”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 29:24 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Insight
Murrell: Mastering basic services like burgers, drinks, or haircuts guarantees steady income
“In fact, my mom used to say, if you can make a good hamburger, or serve a good drink, or give a good haircut, you'll always... Have something to do, yeah. Have an income.”
Jerry Murrell Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 30:43 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)
Disclosure
Thrasher's French Fries inspired the simple Five Guys menu model
“There must have been 20 places selling boardwalk fries, but only one place had a long line, and that was Threshers. It was, the line was a hundred feet long all day long. So me and the kids, that got into our mind, like, you know, hamburgers, fries, keep it si…”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 5:43 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jerry Murrell launched the first Five Guys in 1986 with $35,000
“Our first throw, we put 35,000 dollars in.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 6:57 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Five Guys broke even and was profitable from its first day
“And we made money from our very first day, and we were breaking even, and we were paying our rent.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 9:21 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell
Assertion Not checkable as stated
An exclusive potato contract made an Idaho farmer a multimillionaire
“A guy named Rick Miles was a small potato dealer out there, so we got a hold of him. And we said, would you sell us potatoes? We did not know at the time that he was small. Now he's become a multimillionaire because we buy all our potatoes from him.”
Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 ▶ 10:27 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell

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The other half of the tape: Jerry Murrell's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 11 times in 2 episodes on How I Built This. 1 statement on the record names them. every mention, with the transcript →

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Statements about Jerry Murrell, by other people (1)

Assertion Supported
Raz: Five Guys' worldwide revenue is approaching $2 billion
“And if you add up all of the restaurants and franchises around the world, he says they are approaching two billion dollars in revenue.”
Guy Raz Jan 14, 2019 ▶ 31:00 Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019)

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2018 5 mentions in 1 episode
2017 6 mentions in 1 episode

Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Five Guys: Jerry Murrell (2019) Jan 14, 2019 17m
Five Guys: Jerry Murrell Jun 5, 2017 18m
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