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Andy Spade

Co-Founder, Kate Spade New York · 2 appearances on the record.

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13statements → 10claims → 0claims resolved → 3.92/5average certainty → 1/5average debate potential → ≈4.5/5argument clarity, estimated → 20said about them ↓

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10 assertions · 3 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 10 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 0 are resolved, and 10 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Andy argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

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Everything Andy Spade said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kate and Andy Spade took no salary until year four
“Fourth year we paid ourselves 15,000 and we're still working out of our apartment.”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 19:59 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Founders drained their savings and 401(k) to bootstrap Kate Spade
“We had run through our four or one K money. And, you know, all of our savings at that point, we still weren't seeing, you know, a progression that was going to pay us a salary in the next year, in the near future.”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 22:39 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
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A 50-store department store rollout quadrupled Kate Spade's business
“Either Neiman's or Saks, they were buying for two or three stores, and they said, we're going to buy for all of our stores. And that was 50 stores, or more than 50 stores, and that quadrupled our business.”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 24:20 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kate and Andy Spade waited four years to take a $15,000 salary
“Fourth year we paid ourselves 15,000, and we were still working out of our apartment.”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 19:58 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Disclosure
Andy Spade took Saatchi advertising job to fund Kate Spade fabric costs
“I got a job offer to work for Saatchi and Saatchi in LA, and I almost tripled my salary. You know, we were still funding the company ourselves, and we needed money for fabric, and we needed money for the trade shows, and so we both agreed that I would go to L.…”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 21:32 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Disclosure
Andy and Kate Spade depleted all 401(k) accounts to bootstrap their brand
“We had run through our four or one K money. And, you know, all of our savings at that point, we still weren't seeing, you know, a progression that was going to pay us a salary in the next year, in the near future.”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 22:38 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Department store expansion to 50 locations quadrupled Kate Spade's business overnight
“Either Neiman's or Saks, they were buying for two or three stores, and they said, we're going to buy for all of our stores. And that was 50 stores, or more than 50 stores, and that quadrupled our business.”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 24:14 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andy Spade built a college ad agency by bartering for food
“I did start an advertising agency my senior year in college, and so I started trading ads for bartering food, and so I'd go to a restaurant, for example, and I'd bring in the ad that they had running in the local paper, And I would show it to them and say, I t…”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 3:24 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kate Spade accepted her first New York job for $14,000
“When she got her job offer for 14,000 dollars a year, everything changed.”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 4:17 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Counterfeit Kate Spade bags first appeared on Canal Street in 1998
“And counterfeits started around 98. And we started seeing them on Canal Street.”
Andy Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 29:00 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kate Spade's first New York magazine job paid $14,000 a year
“When she got her job offer for 14,000 dollars a year, everything changed.”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 4:17 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Disclosure
Kate and Andy Spade hid their business from family expecting to fail
“We intentionally didn't really talk about it much to family, because I think secretly we both thought it would fail.”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 14:49 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andy Spade started college advertising agency by bartering design for food
“I did start an advertising agency my senior year in college, and so I started trading ads for bartering food, and so I'd go to a restaurant, for example, and I'd bring in the ad that they had running in the local paper, And I would show it to them and say, I t…”
Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 3:24 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade

The other half of the tape: Andy Spade's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 13 times in 8 episodes on How I Built This. 7 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most Guy Raz 7Casey Neistat 6

Statements about Andy Spade, by other people (7)

Insight
Kate Spade viewed street corner counterfeit knockoffs as a compliment of success
“Which Andy said, that's actually a compliment. He said, you know, you're doing something right when they're on every blanket on every street corner.”
Kate Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 29:03 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Disclosure
Andy Spade invented the brand name reflecting a 50-50 partnership
“Well, that was Andy. Because we were, I was not Kate Spade. I was Kate Brosnahan, and I kept coming up with these names, and Andy kept saying Kate Spade, because we were fifty-fifty partners, and finally I just said, okay, and everyone said, I love it, Kate Sp…”
Kate Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 16:47 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Disclosure
Kate and Andy Spade self-financed their new venture, Frances Valentine
“And we're self-financing again. So I'm not crazy about, as I mentioned earlier, losing any money. So, you know, this thing better work.”
Kate Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 33:41 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Disclosure
Kate and Andy Spade worked on separate floors to protect their marriage
“We actually worked on separate floors for that very reason, because I had a tendency to go into his office, and he'd be on the phone, and I'd say, get off the phone, I have something to tell you, or ask you. And that, we had to really, I had to myself find bou…”
Kate Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 31:10 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Disclosure
Kate and Andy Spade maintained boundaries by working on separate floors
“We actually worked on separate floors for that very reason, because I had a tendency to go into his office, and he'd be on the phone, and I'd say, get off the phone, I have something to tell you, or ask you. And that, we had to really, I had to myself find bou…”
Kate Spade Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 31:12 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017)
Disclosure
Kate and Andy Spade are self-financing their new brand Frances Valentine
“And we're self-financing again. So I'm not crazy about, as I mentioned earlier, losing any money.”
Kate Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 33:40 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kate Spade met husband Andy working opposite sides of a clothing store
“We worked together at a clothing store, and I was on the women's side. He was on the men's side, and one day his car broke down, and he asked me for a ride home.”
Kate Spade Feb 6, 2017 ▶ 1:27 Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade

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2026 1 mention in 1 episode
2020 7 mentions in 2 episodes 4 per episode
2018 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
2017 3 mentions in 3 episodes 1 per episode

Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade (2017) Jan 8, 2018 6m
Kate Spade: Kate & Andy Spade Feb 6, 2017 6m
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