Betterment

23 statements across 3 episodes · 10 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Oct 29, 2018 by Jon Stein · said 51 times in 4 episodes since 2018 · across every show →

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2020 21 mentions in 2 episodes 11 per episode
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Oct 29, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
Stein: Betterment Was Initially Funded Entirely Out of Co-Founders' Personal Savings
“Eli had saved money as well as a lawyer, and so we funded the business out of our savings.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 22:03 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 negative
Insight
Stein: Managing Personal Investments Is Nearly Impossible for Everyday Savers
“If it was that hard for me, ah, someone who's had all the benefits of, you know, ah, business school, and a degree in economics, and a CFA, and all of these, like, and working in the industry, wow, it must be impossible for the average person to manage their m…”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 12:53 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Bessemer offered Betterment $3M when the startup sought $1M
“The first meeting that he set up was with Bessemer Ventures, and we went out and we pitched Rob Stavis, and it was love at first pitch. We said, we're building this Company that is going to help people make the most of their money. And Rob said, this is fascin…”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 34:24 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Betterment reached $1M AUM within days of TechCrunch launch
“300 that day, right? Wow. 350. They were just, and we were amazed. We think this is incredible. And they were small deposits at first, right? Nobody put in more than, you know, 10 K or so. But all of a sudden, by, within a few days, we had a million dollars un…”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 32:11 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 positive
Assertion Supported
Stein: Betterment clients hold Vanguard funds, making Vanguard a partner
“Anyone who's invested with us is also getting some Vanguard funds. So in a sense, we're partners with them.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 42:35 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 bullish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Stein: Betterment expected $18B to $20B in AUM by late 2018
“Yeah, we expect to be in the ballpark of 18 to twenty billion by the end of 2018.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 37:02 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018
Disclosure
Stein: Betterment's Target Customer Makes Over $100,000
“We think of our target customer as being someone who's making over a 100,000 dollars. That means they're a professional.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 16:07 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 positive
Insight
Stein: Founders should create early co-founder buyout provisions
“One thing that we did right was in the early days we created provisions around buyouts, and I'm so happy we did that, and when people ask for advice, I always tell them to do this”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 38:14 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018
Disclosure
Stein: Early Betterment employees took salary cuts and contributed capital for payroll
“And by the way, in that time, we're asking our employees to reduce their salaries and even contribute capital. To buy more equity, to pay themselves. So we were buying time as best we could until we could raise some capital.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 33:40 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Betterment's Tax Management Saves Clients More Than Platform Fees
“We tax manage for you to save you more than you even pay us in fees. In taxes, we give you net positive returns on your investment with us”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 17:55 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 negative
Opinion
Stein: Banks and Brokers Earn Bad Reputations by Pushing Manufactured Products
“I didn't want to be a bank. I didn't want to be A broker. I didn't want to be any of those things, because I think they all have bad reputations for a reason. They're manufacturing product and selling product.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 20:02 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Robo-advisors founded after 2008–2009 stayed tiny or were acquired
“There were a couple other competitors that started at that time that still exist. Everyone who started since is either really tiny or has been acquired or this or that.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 24:14 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018 neutral
Assertion Supported
Raz: Betterment is valued at $800 million
“He's the CEO and founder of Betterment, which at the time of this recording was valued at eight hundred million dollars.”
Guy Raz Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 47:33 Betterment: Jon Stein
Oct 29, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Betterment co-founders agreed to reduce their initial equal 33% equity stakes
“I had to come back to them and say, I don't think we did this right, and I want to renegotiate our split here. And that was tough, but you know, ultimately they were they agreed that that, that they should take smaller shares.”
Jon Stein Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 39:47 Betterment: Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: Only 2% more Betterment users withdrew funds in March 2020
“Among all of our customers, only two percent more customers withdrew in March than did in a normal month for us, and by far more customers were depositing the withdrawing”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 18:03 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: 26% more Betterment users made ad hoc deposits during crash
“26% more of our total customer base was depositing ad hoc, not just auto deposit, but actually actively putting more money in than pulling money out.”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 18:18 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 neutral
Assertion Supported
Betterment survey: 33% of Gen Z lost jobs to COVID vs 8% Boomers
“In our survey of millennials, I think it was 33% of Gen Z lost jobs in our survey due to COVID versus only about eight percent of the baby boomers had lost jobs.”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 20:06 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 neutral
Disclosure
Stein: 40% of Betterment users invested stimulus checks; only 15% spent them
“We're seeing another 40% put it into long-term retirement savings, things like an IRA, Or a four Oh one K and actually the smallest minority, maybe it's maybe it's 15% is putting putting that money toward say an immediate spending need.”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 23:18 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 neutral
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Stein: Older Betterment investors were more likely to panic-withdraw than youth
“For investors who are closer to retirement, we're recommending more conservative portfolios. We're putting them into more cash. We're putting them into more bonds that are less volatile in times like these. And nevertheless, they're more likely to withdraw tha…”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 21:13 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
May 16, 2020 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stein: 37% more millennial Betterment users deposited than withdrew
“For millennials, the most interesting thing is that for millennials, it was 37% more were putting ad hoc money in than withdrawing.”
Jon Stein May 16, 2020 ▶ 18:27 How I Built Resilience: Live with Tobias Lütke and Jon Stein
Feb 5, 2026 positive
Insight
B2B Sales Provide Repeatable Scaling When D2C Marketing Efficiency Caps Out
“Focus doesn't mean exclusivity. So we still market direct to consumer at Betterment. That's a lot of the brand origin story. That's where we came from. It's, and we built around that customer. But our marketing dollars, there's only so many dollars we can spen…”
Jon Stein Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 41:48 Advice Line with Jon Stein of Betterment
Feb 5, 2026
Insight
Founders Should Master One Growth Channel at a Time Before Expanding
“I've seen firsthand at Betterment and at other companies that I've advised over the years, how too many simultaneous growth paths can dilute focus, even if they're all promising and maybe they're all things you want to do in the long run. I think that you can …”
Jon Stein Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 13:40 Advice Line with Jon Stein of Betterment
Feb 5, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Betterment Manages Over $60 Billion for More Than One Million Americans
“That's right. Even, even more than that today. And we manage money for over a million Americans.”
Jon Stein Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 1:28 Advice Line with Jon Stein of Betterment
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