Jessica Lovering

Postdoctoral Researcher, Uppsala University · 1 appearance on the record.

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Jessica Lovering is an energy researcher focused on nuclear reactor economics, commercial nuclear trade, and progressive policies for advanced nuclear deployment. She co-founded the Good Energy Collective and previously served as the director of the energy program at the Breakthrough Institute.

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3 predictions · 10 assertions · 6 insights · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 13 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 9 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Jessica argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Lovering: US and Finnish nuclear projects reached ~$8,000 per kilowatt
“The Vogel project, which just finished in the U.S., is, is probably at the high end. I think the project that just came online in Finland is probably up at this level as well. It's about 8000 dollars per kilowatt, so four times more.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 12:39 The cost of nuclear

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Everything Jessica Lovering said on Catalyst that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Lovering: Lack of demand-pull policy drove high US nuclear costs
“What's really been missing with nuclear in terms of policy to help bring down the cost is that demand pull policy. And so this is why you see that nuclear is cheaper and gets cheaper over time in places that have a lot of growth in demand for electricity becau…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 33:08 The cost of nuclear
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2029
Lovering: Handful of advanced nuclear projects will come online before 2030
“I think we'll probably see ground start to get broken in maybe the next five years, and probably, I would say, a handful of projects coming online before 2030.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 39:12 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: US and Finnish nuclear projects reached ~$8,000 per kilowatt
“The Vogel project, which just finished in the U.S., is, is probably at the high end. I think the project that just came online in Finland is probably up at this level as well. It's about 8000 dollars per kilowatt, so four times more.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 12:39 The cost of nuclear
Insight
Lovering: Standardized series reactor construction drives down nuclear costs
“Really what, you know, what makes nuclear cheap and where nuclear is cheapest, whether you're looking at history or where it's cheap currently, it's where, you Countries and utilities are building a lot of reactors in series of a standardized design. And the, …”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 15:31 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lovering: China Builds Nuclear Power at Roughly $2,500 per Kilowatt
“We can say China's probably building at about 2500 dollars per kilowatt, so not quite as cheap as South Korea, but, you know, nowhere near the U.S., and again, that's probably because they're building a lot of the same design.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 18:02 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: The nuclear island is only 12% of total AP1000 plant cost
“The actual, like, nuclear Component was called the nuclear island, so it's like the reactor, the pressure, containment structure. That's only like, 12% of the total cost, so that nuclear part is very small.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 21:41 The cost of nuclear
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lovering: US will not see eight nuclear companies build thousands of reactors
“And so, I don't think we're gonna have, you know, eight companies building thousands of reactors in the U.S. But I do think we're gonna get demonstrations of several, and we'll probably see which ones work, and some of them aren't gonna work”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 25:26 The cost of nuclear
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lovering: SMR developers may offer fixed-price contracts for early reactor builds
“So you might see something similar like that, probably not for the first of a kind, but for the second, third, fourth of a kind, saying, okay, we're going to, you are going to pay, you know, 3000 per kilowatt fixed price, no matter what it costs us.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 42:52 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: Microreactor developers are shifting to build-own-operate PPA models
“And then some other companies, particularly more on the microreactor side, are looking at doing more like a build-own-operate model, where they'd be selling electricity through a power purchase agreement, which, you know, looks very different. So the company w…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 43:19 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: South Korea builds the cheapest nuclear reactors at ~$2,200/kW
“I would say that the cheapest nuclear in the world, and I'm so glad that your audience can understand if I say dollars per kilowatt is in South Korea, and that's about 2200 dollars per kilowatt.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 12:10 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: US existing nuclear electricity is second-cheapest after hydro
“In the US, nuclear, existing nuclear power, the electricity generated is the second cheapest only after hydroelectric.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 14:04 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: China Has 22 Nuclear Reactors Under Construction, Will Surpass France
“China's, has the most nuclear under construction of any country. It has about, ah, I think, 22 reactors under construction right now. When those are Complete. Actually, just when a few more come online, they will surpass France as having the largest fleet of n…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 17:00 The cost of nuclear
Insight
Lovering: Nuclear Costs Are Driven by Engineering and Management, Not Materials
“A lot of the cost of nuclear is, is not necessarily in, like, concrete and steel. It's a lot of, like, engineering and design costs and project management”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 18:55 The cost of nuclear
Insight
Lovering: Nuclear costs are high because plants are built like custom infrastructure
“Why is nuclear so expensive, is that they're still built, like, large infrastructure projects. It's not like building a car or an airplane. It's like building a highway or hydroelectric dam or a bridge. Each one's very unique, and so these, you know, secondary…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 22:10 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: Studies show smaller energy technologies have faster learning rates
“So one is Wilson et al. 20 20 and Swartz et al. 20 20, but they both look at the size of energy technologies and their learning rates, and they find that across all sorts of energy technologies, batteries, generators, the smaller they are, the faster they lear…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 26:58 The cost of nuclear
Insight
Lovering: Passive safety lowers advanced nuclear manufacturing and O&M costs
“A lot of them rely on passive safety. So it's safety that's derived from physical processes, not engineered systems. And why that matters in a simple way Way to explain it is that you can have much simpler engineering, so it reduces complexity in the design, a…”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 27:27 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: South Korea's nuclear regulation is largely modeled on US NRC
“It's not that South Korea has a vastly different regulator. It's actually modeled much on the U.S., and the U.S. Regulator, the NRC, is considered the gold standard, and a lot of other countries follow our example.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 32:07 The cost of nuclear
Insight
Lovering: Factory-fabricated nuclear reactors require aircraft-style bulk licensing
“What will be needed is if we're doing really modular plants, like factory fabricated reactors, that will definitely need a regulatory change, because we don't have those sorts of bulk licenses, like you do for aircraft manufacturing.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 35:28 The cost of nuclear
Assertion Supported
Lovering: Over 30 newcomer countries are seeking their first nuclear plants
“There are also, like, over 30 countries that are looking to develop their first nuclear power plants.”
Jessica Lovering Nov 16, 2023 ▶ 7:12 The cost of nuclear

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
The cost of nuclear Nov 16, 2023 26m
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