voluntary carbon market

also referred to as: voluntary carbon markets

9 statements across 6 episodes · 0 bullish · 6 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Mar 24, 2022 by Shayle Kann · across every show →

Everything said about voluntary carbon market, oldest first

Mar 24, 2022
Assertion Supported
Kann: Voluntary carbon market represents only $1B of $851B global total
“One billion. Out of that eight hundred fifty one billion, that's the entire size of the voluntary carbon market. The market outside what's regulated into existence, largely by the European Union.”
Shayle Kann Mar 24, 2022 ▶ 3:40 Will this carbon market boom be different?
Aug 25, 2022 bearish
Assertion Supported
Chay: Soil offsets guarantee decades of storage against millennial fossil emissions
“Credits in the current market might represent anywhere from 10 years of carbon storage to, you know, maybe a couple of decades or at the very, very high end. In forests, but on soils, a hundred years. So you're talking about a really different time scale than …”
Freya Chay (Freya Che) Aug 25, 2022 ▶ 8:13 The dirt on soil carbon credits
Jun 8, 2023 bearish
Opinion
Kann: Voluntary carbon market's core trust issues remain unchanged today
“But I would argue that the fundamental problems that plagued the market when I was a wee young analyst are basically unchanged today. We still have not yet figured out how to build enough trust in this market to see its scale.”
Shayle Kann Jun 8, 2023 ▶ 4:41 The carbon market’s quality problem
Jun 8, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Fury: Voluntary carbon market transacted $2B compared to $850B compliance markets
“So a couple of billion dollars last year of value in terms of the transacted value. So that's negligible really compared to the compliance markets, which are around eight, fifty billion. So nearly a trillion dollars.”
Alistair Frew (Alistair Fury) Jun 8, 2023 ▶ 15:45 The carbon market’s quality problem
Jan 4, 2024 negative
Insight
Orbuch: Legacy carbon offset market operated as an aligned house of cards
“Because the registries and the feedback loop with the registries is to just keep issuing credits and make each credit look the same as every other credit, everyone's incentivized the other way because the buyers don't want to go back and say, Wow, all this mon…”
Ryan Orbuch Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 25:31 Fixing the messy voluntary carbon market
Jan 4, 2024 negative
Opinion
Orbuch: Legacy carbon markets lied to buyers about scientific uncertainty
“Buyers have been Implicitly comfortable with uncertainty for decades because we'd lied to them that the uncertainty didn't exist.”
Ryan Orbuch Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 47:08 Fixing the messy voluntary carbon market
Feb 15, 2024 negative
Opinion
Bullard: Long-term carbon markets need better application of standards, not more standards
“I don't think that in the long run, markets are asking for more standards. They're asking for better application of a number of standards.”
Nat Bullard Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 27:43 More 2024 trends: ESG, carbon certifications, curtailment, and AI
Feb 15, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Bullard: Carbon certification standards grew from 1 in 1996 to 37 in 2023
“In 1996, we had one carbon certification standard. In 2023, we have 37 of them.”
Nat Bullard Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 26:43 More 2024 trends: ESG, carbon certifications, curtailment, and AI
Jan 30, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kann: Carbon removal startup oversupply will force a market reckoning
“I think the overwhelming likelihood is that we're in for a bit of a reckoning in that market. In that market, I mean, both the general voluntary carbon market, and more specifically, the CDR market. Not to say everything fails, but there's just the, there's an…”
Shayle Kann Jan 30, 2025 ▶ 32:14 2025 trends: aerosols, oil demand, and carbon removal
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