synthetic methane
5 statements across 2 episodes · 0 bullish · 3 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Mar 23, 2023 by Brandon Moffat · across every show →
Everything said about synthetic methane, oldest first
Mar 23, 2023 neutral
Moffat: Synthetic methane costs over $30/MMBtu with near-zero carbon intensity
“It is going to be more money, so you're going to be in the over 30 dollars in MMBT to be able to sell it, and your carbon intensity is not going to be negative. It's going to be hovering around zero or a little higher depending on your renewable mix that you p…”
Nov 21, 2024 neutral
Thiel: Standard synthetic methanation achieves approximately 50% total efficiency
“If you used something like that and did this kind of fairly standard methanation process, the total efficiency of the process kind of comes in around 50% ballpark, right? And about half of those losses of the 50% of the energy that you lose are in the electrol…”
Nov 21, 2024 bearish
Kann: Synthetic methane cannot be produced below $20–$30/MMBtu near term
“With today's costs of hydrogen, and today's costs of CO₂, or even the next few years costs of both, You know, it's hard to picture producing synthetic methane. Again, we haven't even talked about the capex here, but it's hard to imagine producing synthetic met…”
Nov 21, 2024 bearish
Thiel: Even at $1/kg hydrogen, synthetic methane feedstock costs $10/MMBtu
“In the best case, you need something like half a kilo of hydrogen per kilo of methane. And so if we looked into a, to a wonderful version of the future where we, Get to the kind of magic one dollar per kilogram hydrogen mark that, you know, is, is on the DOE's…”
Nov 21, 2024 bearish
Thiel: $100/ton DAC CO2 adds $6/MMBtu to synthetic methane costs
“The, again, sort of best case from the chemistry is something like 2.75 kilograms of CO₂ per kilogram of methane. So thinking back on a, on an MMBTU basis, you know, if you want to Get the good sort of CO₂ from the air, and we hit all our hopes and targets of …”