copper

25 statements across 7 episodes · 3 bullish · 1 bearish · 7 people on the record · first statement Apr 21, 2022 by Kurt House · across every show →

Everything said about copper, oldest first

Apr 21, 2022
Assertion Supported
House: EVs require three times more copper mass than ICE cars
“An EV, as you probably know, requires about three X copper, three X mass of copper, than an equivalent internal combustion car.”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 7:14 The great rush for battery metals
Apr 21, 2022
Prediction Not checkable as stated
House: Light-duty EV transition requires $5 trillion in new copper discoveries
“By our estimates, We need roughly five trillion dollars of new discoveries of copper, and this is, I mean, we'll come back to the, what I mean by discovery, well, let's keep going but new discoveries of copper just to fully electrify the light duty vehicle fle…”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 7:35 The great rush for battery metals
Apr 21, 2022
Disclosure
KoBold ranks critical metal exploration priorities: nickel, lithium, cobalt, then copper
“We'd order it as nickel followed by lithium followed by cobalt followed by copper.”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 57:32 The great rush for battery metals
Apr 21, 2022
Assertion Not checkable as stated
House: Market opportunity for new lithium discoveries is $3 to $4 trillion
“The new discoveries, about three trillion, or maybe four trillion, as opposed to five trillion. So it's actually on the same order, like the market opportunity for new lithium discoveries is about the same order of that as copper”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 14:06 The great rush for battery metals
Apr 21, 2022
Assertion Supported
House: Global copper market is worth roughly $100 billion
“It's an order hundred billion dollar market.”
Kurt House Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 6:28 The great rush for battery metals
Sep 22, 2022
Assertion Supported
Yergin: Electric vehicles require 2.5 times more copper than gas cars
“They said they had to be electric cars, but electric cars are two and a half times more copper.”
Dr. Daniel Yergin Sep 22, 2022 ▶ 45:58 Columbia Energy Exchange: Will Putin’s Energy Strategy Backfire?
Sep 22, 2022 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Yergin: Current mining rates will cause a severe copper shortage
“Well, I think that even with what we said, wildly optimistic assumptions, you don't get there, and if you continue at the rate we are in terms of mine development, efficiency of mines, and recycling, you end up with quite a big shortage, which would be a real …”
Dr. Daniel Yergin Sep 22, 2022 ▶ 47:01 Columbia Energy Exchange: Will Putin’s Energy Strategy Backfire?
Sep 22, 2022
Assertion Partly supported
Yergin: China smelts 42% of the world's copper
“We're back to China, where 42% of world copper is smelted.”
Dr. Daniel Yergin Sep 22, 2022 ▶ 48:24 Columbia Energy Exchange: Will Putin’s Energy Strategy Backfire?
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
The world consumes 28 to 29 million tons of copper annually
“The general number is that the world consumes roughly 28 to twenty-nine million tons of copper a year. Of those, Something like 5,000,006 million come from recycling or scrap, or there's a recovery of copper around that, that helps you. But in general, what is…”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 8:15 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
China consumes roughly half of the world's annual copper supply
“So roughly China consumes 12 to 15 to thirteen million tons of copper per year. The U.S. Around one point into two million tons. And then Germany, Japan, and developed nations consume roughly a million tons per year.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 19:15 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Solar and wind projects require 3 to 5 tons of copper per megawatt
“We need it for transmission lines, in solar and wind projects, three to five tons per megawatt, actually.”
Shayle Kann Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 4:06 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
China holds 45% to 55% of global copper smelting capacity
“Roughly 50, between 45, 55% of the smelting capacity in the world, so companies that purchase the concentrate and smelt it, are in China.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 20:14 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
80% of global copper is produced via sulfide concentration
“Today, about 80% of the copper is produced through concentration, because it comes from copper sulfides, and only 20% comes from copper oxides, and those are processes through hydrometallurgy.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 29:18 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Copper mining volume is 5x lithium, nickel, and cobalt combined
“But just to contextualize the scale of the challenge here, we mine around five times as much copper as we do those other three minerals, lithium, nickel, and cobalt combined.”
Shayle Kann Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 5:09 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023
Assertion Supported
45% of global copper is used in electricity and grid infrastructure
“45% of the copper in the world is used in the grid or in electricity or any application that it's either in the production or the transmission of electrons, or the use of those electrons.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 7:25 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Chile's Escondida mine produces as much copper as the entire US
“So Escondida, which is the largest copper mine in the world, produces all by itself a million tons of copper, a little bit more than one million ton of copper tons per year. That is roughly all the production of the U.S. Just produced by one asset.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 12:48 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2053
Copper demand over the next 30 years will equal all historical production
“The amount of copper that will be required in the next 30 year shale is roughly the amount of copper that humanity has produced all over history.”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 38:07 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
EVs require 2.5 times more copper than gas-powered cars
“And especially in EVs, like really in, in electric vehicles, they use like two and a half times as much copper as a traditional internal combustion engine vehicle does.”
Shayle Kann Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 4:12 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
The Americas produce over half of the world's copper
“The main producer of copper is chile. And I'm Chilean, and we're based in Chile as a company. And Chile produces roughly one-third of the copper. Peru produces another 10% of the copper. And the rest of the Americas, that's US, Canada, Mexico, produce roughly …”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 8:45 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jun 1, 2023 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Freeport-McMoRan surpassed Codelco as the world's largest copper producer in 2022
“The largest producer of copper in the world is, there's a tie. So last year there was a change in the ranking. It was usually was Codelco, which is a state-owned company, a Chilean state-owned company. Codelco was the largest producer of copper, and last year …”
Cristobal Undurraga Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 11:16 Keeping copper from limiting the energy transition
Jul 27, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Grogan: Seafloor massive sulfides can have 10x higher copper grades than land mines
“Now in something like sea floor massive sulfides, The grade can be 10 times as high as a typical terrestrial copper mine.”
Renee Grogan Jul 27, 2023 ▶ 11:41 Mining the deep sea
Oct 8, 2024
Assertion Supported
McCoy: Minnesota copper reserves could build 2.6 terawatts of wind capacity
“There's enough copper to build 2.6 terawatts of wind capacity.”
Tanis McCoy Oct 8, 2024 ▶ 6:56 Giving tribes a stake in the critical minerals boom [partner content]
Oct 8, 2024
Assertion Supported
McCoy: Minnesota's Duluth Complex contains 95% of America's nickel
“The Duluth complex actually where New Range is located, which is in northeastern Minnesota, contains 95% of America's nickel, 88% of Cobalt and 33% of our copper.”
Tanis McCoy Oct 8, 2024 ▶ 6:22 Giving tribes a stake in the critical minerals boom [partner content]
Jan 2, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Kann: Lithium is a smaller market than major commodities but grows faster
“It's a much smaller market than any of the others I just mentioned, I should note, but the demand growth trajectory is also steeper, and it's got all the makings of a super volatile commodity landscape.”
Shayle Kann Jan 2, 2025 ▶ 2:21 Lithium’s wild ride
Feb 20, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Yao: Sodium-ion replaces copper with cheaper aluminum current collectors
“Where the substrate metal foil that the negative bread is attached to, usually in lithium ion, has to be copper. In sodium ion, it can be aluminum, and that's lighter, it's cheaper it has some other benefits that we can get into later, but apart from all of th…”
Adrian Yao Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 9:48 The promise and perils of sodium-ion batteries
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