CIO

also referred to as: cios

33 statements across 19 episodes · 10 bullish · 7 bearish · 16 people on the record · first statement Sep 4, 2017 by Jim Dunn · across every show →

Everything said about CIO, oldest first

Sep 4, 2017 neutral
Insight
Dunn: Institutional CIO roles are largely ceremonial people-management positions
“As CIO, your role is pretty ceremonial, right? You're basically trying to put fires out and, you know, deal with people. Less about asset allocation. You've got portfolio managers do that and analysts.”
Jim Dunn Sep 4, 2017 ▶ 16:26 Jim Dunn – Protect, Perform, Provide (Capital Allocators, EP.24)
Sep 25, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stanford's outperforming peer endowments all had CIOs with ten-year tenures
“When we were doing the Stanford CEO search, Seven or eight institutions that they compared themselves to that were ahead of them on a ten-year basis, on their, in terms of their ten-year number, all those CIOs had been in place for 10 years.”
David Barrett Sep 25, 2017 ▶ 25:23 David Barrett – Searching for Leaders (Capital Allocators, EP.26)
Sep 25, 2017 negative
Insight
Performance transparency and media narratives created an unfortunate CIO arms race
“The reason you've seen so much So many changing seats over the last several years is that because of the increased transparency around performance, and then the, so then they get the relative comparisons where, you know, through, you know, the press has turned…”
David Barrett Sep 25, 2017 ▶ 34:37 David Barrett – Searching for Leaders (Capital Allocators, EP.26)
Sep 25, 2017 positive
Insight
The most successful CIOs actively leverage their investment committees
“The most successful CIOs are leveraging their investment committees.”
David Barrett Sep 25, 2017 ▶ 21:08 David Barrett – Searching for Leaders (Capital Allocators, EP.26)
Oct 2, 2017 neutral
Opinion
Mastering asset classes takes too long for under-40 CIOs, Ellison argues
“I'm always amazed when I see people under age 40 who are CIOs because, let's face it takes a long time to get reasonably good at all those different asset classes.”
Ellen Ellison Oct 2, 2017 ▶ 12:00 Ellen Ellison – Playing to Your Strengths (Capital Allocators, EP.27)
May 13, 2019 negative
Insight
Mauboussin: Institutional Agency Friction Drives Harmful Action Bias Over Patience
“If there's poor performance, alarm bells come up and down the chain and the committee doesn't say like, Let's do nothing. They always say, like, we should do something, right? So this notion, and by the way, I think it's a Western thing, maybe an American thin…”
Michael Mauboussin May 13, 2019 ▶ 49:44 Michael Mauboussin – Who's on the Other Side (Capital Allocators, EP.99)
May 20, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Recker: Late-1990s GE Study Identified Alternatives as Best CIO Background
“GE did a study about future CIOs, and they concluded that alternatives was the proper background for future CIOs.”
Tim Recker May 20, 2019 ▶ 11:40 Tim Recker - Concentration at the James Irvine Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.100)
Jun 8, 2020 positive
Disclosure
Wellington operates without a CIO across 50-plus investment boutiques
“And importantly to our business model, we have this orientation of no CIO, which means we don't have a single decision maker that everyone is feeding the insights to. Instead, we have this concept of having a community of investment boutiques where we have 50 …”
Wendy Cromwell Jun 8, 2020 ▶ 28:23 Sustainable Investing 1: Wendy Cromwell – The $170 Trillion Opportunity (Capital Allocators, EP.139)
Dec 28, 2020 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chief Investment Officer interviews lag behind top downloaded podcast episodes
“As in past years, our conversations with CIOs, interestingly, tend to cluster just below the most downloaded shows, so we compile an honorable mention of the top three CIO interviews as well.”
Ted Seides Dec 28, 2020 ▶ 18:40 Ted Seides - Capital Allocators Year in Review (Capital Allocators, EP.170)
Mar 22, 2021 negative
Insight
Seides: Critical CIO disciplines like negotiation are omitted from CFA training
“These are the tools of really a five tool player, like CIOs of big pools of capital have to be able to do a little bit of everything. And these are fundamental disciplines that they're just not taught in the CFA. They're not taught in the investment business.”
Ted Seides Mar 22, 2021 ▶ 12:59 Ted with Patrick O'Shaughnessy – Lessons from the World's Elite Money Managers (Capital Allocators, EP.184)
Mar 25, 2021 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Seides: The CFA curriculum fails to teach essential CIO management tools
“The first section is called toolkit and it's five tools interviewing decision-making or two of the five, the other three are negotiations, leadership and management. These are all things that CIOs and investment professionals need to be effective in their jobs…”
Ted Seides Mar 25, 2021 ▶ 34:27 Ted with Jenny Heller – Compounding Knowledge and Relationships (Capital Allocators, EP.185)
Dec 30, 2021 positive
Insight
Yuppin: Top CIOs target first-time VC funds and spinouts for outsized returns
“Today, you're seeing the real great CIOs are looking for first time funds, spin outs, where you've really identified talent and you want to be there early so you can gain greater capacity and you're more actively involved early and you're capturing some of tha…”
Eric Yuppin Dec 30, 2021 ▶ 10:44 Jamie Montgomery – March Capital (Manager Meetings, EP.26)
Jan 30, 2023 negative
Insight
Saviano: Peer comparison among universities is an enormous distraction for CIOs
“So one thing that comes up a lot for CIOs is I would say the peer comparison. This is especially true for colleges and universities where there's just such a football game approach to it and whose school is beating whose. And I think it's an enormous distracti…”
John-Austin Saviano Jan 30, 2023 ▶ 38:08 John-Austin Saviano – Emerging Managers and IC Governance (Capital Allocators, EP.294)
Jan 30, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Saviano: Some endowment CIOs have compensation benchmarked against rival schools
“You have CIOs that have compensation that is benchmarked against how they did versus their rival schools.”
John-Austin Saviano Jan 30, 2023 ▶ 39:06 John-Austin Saviano – Emerging Managers and IC Governance (Capital Allocators, EP.294)
May 8, 2023
Insight
Investment committee members must be coaches, not players
“I do think when you serve on an IC, you have to remember that you're a coach and not a player in that regard. I have the benefit of seeing ICs from multiple angles, not just serving on them, but also we obviously have a lot of ICs that we present to here as we…”
Tony Yoseloff May 8, 2023 ▶ 52:47 Tony Yoseloff – Forty Years of Davidson Kempner (Capital Allocators, EP.313)
May 8, 2023 positive
Insight
Decentralized team captains make better investment decisions than senior executives
“I want to have a larger number of team captains who are people who have been here for a long time, who we've seen their work product, we trust their work product, and those people can be empowered to make decisions on individual investments because those peopl…”
Tony Yoseloff May 8, 2023 ▶ 35:19 Tony Yoseloff – Forty Years of Davidson Kempner (Capital Allocators, EP.313)
Dec 18, 2023 neutral
Insight
Sernovitz: CIOs Must Evaluate Fund Managers Through Heavily Controlled Interactions
“And I think one of the great challenges on the CIO side is your job is to figure out systems input hunger, the soul of these people pitching you, but you're seeing them in very controlled context for the most part.”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 31:22 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Dec 18, 2023 neutral
Insight
Sernovitz: Managing investments and managing people require entirely different skill sets
“Managing people and managing investments are not the same side of your brain. There's no a priori reason that someone should be skilled at both. And maybe there's, in fact, the opposite. If you're an analytical, quiet person, you actually don't want to manage …”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 18:24 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Dec 18, 2023
Insight
Sernovitz: Manager Hunger Dissipates Post-Success, Making Timely LP Exits Difficult
“Usually that hunger dissipates after success, and you probably want to be off manager before that hunger dissipates, but it takes an incredible amount of fortitude to say, To someone across the table, hey, I know you're getting rich, sloppy, and lazy. You're n…”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 22:35 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Dec 18, 2023 neutral
Insight
Sernovitz: Fossil fuels represent 3% of portfolios but 97% of CIO headaches
“How I dealt with it in the novel was to think about the pressure of the CIO, a line that I often repeat to CIOs, which is like, it's three percent of the portfolio, but 97% of our headaches.”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 37:35 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Dec 18, 2023
Insight
Sernovitz: Institutional CIOs Face Daily Self-Doubt From Unpredictable Manager Performance
“I have a tremendous amount of respect for people who do the CIO job because every day you're relearning things that you thought that you had figured out about a manager disappointing you, manager surprising you, things you missed”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 14:28 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Dec 18, 2023 neutral
Insight
Sernovitz: CIOs make few annual decisions due to illiquid portfolios
“A CIO doesn't make that many decisions a year. You're not running a pod for .72. The ability to move a highly illiquid portfolio is not easy.”
Gary Sernovitz Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 15:11 Gary Sernovitz - Inside the CIO Seat (EP.357)
Apr 1, 2024
Insight
Liu: Chief investment officers stay too long and portfolios need refreshing
“I knew that one of the big problems with CIOs is they stay too long. And I do think portfolios need refresh.”
Kim Lew Apr 1, 2024 ▶ 59:06 Training Grounds – Carnegie Corporation of New York (EP.377)
Apr 1, 2024
Insight
Liu: CIOs cannot manage inherited portfolios because allocation reflects personal strengths
“A CIO can't manage another CIO's portfolio because you really do gravitate to your strengths.”
Kim Lew Apr 1, 2024 ▶ 37:59 Training Grounds – Carnegie Corporation of New York (EP.377)
May 31, 2024 positive
Insight
Seides: Scaled managers survive institutional CIO turnover better than boutiques
“When a CIO departure occurs, the growing manager will have more options to continue a productive working relationship with the new CIO.”
Ted Seides May 31, 2024 ▶ 11:28 WTT: The Investment Manager Playbook - What Allocators Don't See
Aug 19, 2024
Insight
Fenton: CIOs Should Develop Staff by Delegating Challenges Incrementally
“And I think that's another thing that's really important as a CIO is to give your team members the opportunities to grow professionally without dropping problems in their lap, being incremental about it.”
Joshua Fenton Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 15:42 CIO Transition – Roz Hewsenian and Joshua Fenton, Helmsley Trust (EP.401)
Aug 19, 2024 positive
Insight
Hewsenian: Departing CIOs Need a One-Year Gap Before Joining Committee
“First of all, I wasn't given a choice, but second of all, I think ideally that would be the best way to do it because it gives the successor the opportunity to get his or her sea legs under them without necessarily the scrutiny of sitting there in front of you…”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 24:14 CIO Transition – Roz Hewsenian and Joshua Fenton, Helmsley Trust (EP.401)
Aug 19, 2024 negative
Insight
Hewsenian: Abrupt CIO Exits Cause Investment Teams to Resign Preemptively
“Around us, CIOs were leaving their jobs without a transition, and the teams below them would leave In anticipation of a new boss coming in over them, and they wanted to take matters into their own hands rather than just wait for fate to dictate what would happ…”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 9:21 CIO Transition – Roz Hewsenian and Joshua Fenton, Helmsley Trust (EP.401)
Oct 21, 2024
Insight
Briner: A CIO’s daily role is largely operational, not just investing
“It's largely not an investment job. I think people kind of know that, but I'd take it maybe a degree further. There are many functions that make an investment organization work well, and they are all important. Some of them are important because if you step on…”
Brad Briner Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 37:37 Brad Briner - Family Office to Public Service (EP.413)
Oct 25, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Most CIOs Will Wait to See Which Emerging Managers Yale Backs
“On the investment side, most CIOs will embrace the opportunity to wait and see which managers Yale supports in size. They're happy to outsource wading through large fields of chaff and see if Yale finds wheat.”
Ted Seides Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 13:47 WTT: Yale Backs Emerging Managers… and Then What?
Mar 24, 2025 positive
Insight
Separating asset allocators from governance oversight enables necessary boldness
“Career risk aversion drives a lot of behavior, and Bill felt to the extent you could put some distance between the asset allocator and the oversight or governance group, you had a shot at allowing the CIO to be more bold, because Bill always said, boldness is …”
Ed Grefenstette Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 25:48 Ed Grefenstette – Bold Allocations at The Dietrich Foundation (EP.437)
Mar 24, 2025 positive
Disclosure
The Dietrich Foundation operates entirely without an investment committee
“Yeah, he put in the controlling trust document the fact that he wanted the trustees to delegate investment authority to the CIO and CEO of the foundation. That's unusual. We do not have an investment committee.”
Ed Grefenstette Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 24:52 Ed Grefenstette – Bold Allocations at The Dietrich Foundation (EP.437)
Mar 24, 2025 positive
Opinion
Institutional CIOs avoid cheap Chinese assets due to career risk
“It's not easy because there can be screaming opportunities and China might be perfect example today where intellectually a lot of CIOs know these valuations are getting unjustifiably cheap. But back to career risk. They don't want to walk in, in front of their…”
Ed Grefenstette Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 40:11 Ed Grefenstette – Bold Allocations at The Dietrich Foundation (EP.437)
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