Tony Yoseloff
Managing Partner & CIO, Davidson Kempner Capital Management · 1 appearance on the record.
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Tony Yoseloff is the Managing Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Davidson Kempner Capital Management, where he joined in 1999. He also serves on the investment committees and boards of Princeton University, The New York Public Library, and New York-Presbyterian.
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Many private equity deals rely on unspoken financing arbitrage
“Not all private equity, but a lot of private equity is buying In favor businesses at higher multiples because you think you can operate it better, or you think EBITDA is going to continue to grow, or sometimes it's just a financing arbitrage as to how you do t…”
Decentralized team captains make better investment decisions than senior executives
“I want to have a larger number of team captains who are people who have been here for a long time, who we've seen their work product, we trust their work product, and those people can be empowered to make decisions on individual investments because those peopl…”
Macro overlays often add portfolio risk rather than reducing it
“Because we run our portfolio without leverage and because of how we manage our portfolios, we don't use macro overlays. And I'm not even sure that macro overlays often would be risk Reducing. I think it much might be an additional risk that you're putting on t…”
Holding equity positions too long drives thesis creep and underperformance
“We typically find that if our teams have held stocks for too long, it's usually not a good thing. It's better to be trading in and out of them. There's also a risk of thesis creep, quite frankly. Where you start out in something for one thing and then you wind…”
Credit investors are the first to spot market trouble on ICs
“Over time, credit investors know first when things are going wrong, so I do actually think that there is a benefit to having at least some credit investors on any given committee.”
Calibrate downside risk and loss probability before considering upside
“The first questions I ask are, how are we going to lose money? How much money can we lose? On this, I always assume that if someone asks me about an investment that they're interested in, that they think there's upside to it. So I always want to calibrate the …”
Fund managers must match capital duration to target opportunities
“I think you need to make sure you match duration of capital to opportunities. And there are just different things that you can do if you've got a four or six year period to invest versus having strategies where investors have much more frequent liquidity along…”
Opportunistic credit capital was scarcer in 2011 than 2005
“So ironically, it felt like there were fewer people with capital for opportunistic credit in 2010, 2011 than there were in 2005. And you much rather would have capital in 2011 than you would have in 2005 for the strategy.”
Davidson Kempner corporate distressed deals use little to no leverage
“First of all, there's a lot less leverage on the strategy than there would be in private equity. In a lot of cases, there's no leverage. In some cases, there's limited leverage. Real estate, if you're doing more distressed or opportunistic real estate, that li…”
Davidson Kempner rejects commodity and growth equity strategies
“I don't know what we would do with, like, a commodity strategy, or I don't know what we would do with a growth equity strategy here. I don't think those are things that we either could risk manage properly and or Wouldn't necessarily fit in with everything els…”
Firms maximize success by launching adjacent strategies rather than wandering afield
“I want to make sure if we're doing new things that we're maximizing our chances of success. And I think you can maximize your chance of success if you're already doing it in some guise, or it fits in nicely and neatly to what you're doing versus going too far …”
Cyclical strategy downtime causes investors to stretch and make suboptimal decisions
“I think if you have the cyclicality in it, your team may not have as much to do. Number one, that's not great for talent retention, but also number two, that's when people stretch on things. That's when they pursue things that are not optimal related investmen…”
Voluntary capital deployment is far more informative than non-deployment
“I think about omission and commission being quite different things. And so to me, someone actually proactively putting money to work that you don't necessarily have to put to work is far more powerful than someone not putting money to work.”
Davidson Kempner is skeptical of crypto and holds minimal exposure
“Rightly or wrongly, we've been very skeptical towards cryptocurrency, and so we've done very little investments that have any angle related to cryptocurrency on them. Not zero, but very, very few of those, and that's one where I just couldn't get my arms aroun…”
Davidson Kempner's best portfolios are right only 80% to 85% of the time
“You know, in any given year, no matter what we do, there are going to be investments we lose money, and even our best performing portfolios may only be right 80 or 85% of the time.”
Risk management uses proactive review over automatic pod-shop sellouts
“We tend to operate differently than some of the pod shops in that regard, where typically hitting a test leads to a conversation versus an outright sellout, although typically it's conversations well in advance of hitting a test as people get closer to tests.”
Risk arbitrage carries jump-to-default risk with no trading out
“To use a credit term on risk arbitrage, there's a lot of what I'm going to call jump to default risk in risk arbitrage, where if a deal goes bad, it typically is going bad very quickly and in an unexpected way because a lot of risk arbitrage deals have probabi…”
Davidson Kempner plans to remain an independent private partnership
“I expect we're going to stick with this approach. It's worked very well for 40 years at this point. It's become more old fashioned, but because we continue to invest our own capital, we fortunately have had the balance sheet That we've been able to not do that…”
Successful leadership succession requires genuine desire to retire
“The person in charge has to actually want to retire for this to be successful. A lot of times the person in charge may pay lip service to wanting to retire, but they don't really want to leave. That's what creates some of the problems or some of the issues.”
Effective leadership succession cannot succeed within 6 to 12 months
“You can't just say, hey, I want to retire, let's get this set up for six to 12 months, like, and expect it to succeed. This is something we worked on in different guises for a decade, and I think there was grooming well before that in terms of my taking over t…”
Investment committee members must be coaches, not players
“I do think when you serve on an IC, you have to remember that you're a coach and not a player in that regard. I have the benefit of seeing ICs from multiple angles, not just serving on them, but also we obviously have a lot of ICs that we present to here as we…”
Endowments derail performance by panicking or over-risking at peaks
“What happens is people change strategy and or panic sometimes in really bad times, and that can set you back for a long period of time, and or organizations take on way too much risk at what appears to be a great time, but it's actually the absolute worst time…”
There is no 100-year money due to institutional spend rates
“The things that sometimes people forget is there's really no hundred year money. So there are institutions that have money that will be around for a long time. But most institutions have a spend rate, and even the best institutions may have enough reserves tha…”
Fallen angel debt offers large volume and high margin of safety
“What I like about that is you have indiscriminate sellers who often want to get out because of ratings downgrades. You typically have extremely good collateral backing you, and you've got large volumes of debt, so you can put both a lot of money to work and yo…”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Tony Yoseloff – Forty Years of Davidson Kempner (Capital Allocators, EP.313) | May 8, 2023 | 54m |