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Thiel: 2009 college grads owed more debt 12 years later than at graduation

Peter Thiel · Peter Thiel: The Coming Collapse No One Is Prepared For · Sep 13, 2024 · at 34:54

Peter Thiel explains how compounding interest and poor economic conditions left recent cohorts of US college graduates with growing debt balances 12 years post-graduation.

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“If you take the people who graduated from college in 2009, and you fast forward 12 years to 2021, the median person had more student debt 12 years later than they graduated with.”

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The claim, plainly

In the United States, the median college graduate from the class of 2009 held more student loan debt in 2021 than when they graduated.

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Assessment

Peter Thiel's claim that the median US college graduate from the class of 2009 held more student loan debt 12 years later in 2021 than when they graduated is false. Department of Education longitudinal data for comparable cohorts (such as the NCES Baccalaureate and Beyond study B&B:08/18) show that the median college graduate borrower significantly reduces their debt over time, owing an average of 59.5% of their initial balance 10 years post-graduation. Thiel likely conflated cohort-wide median graduate debt with Congressional Budget Office (CBO) loan-level data—which found that 57% of individual loans saw balance growth due to income-driven repayment and deferment—or with outcomes specific to certain vulnerable demographic subgroups.

NCES Baccalaureate and Beyond (B&B:08/18) data showed that 10 years after graduation, federal student loan borrowers owed an average of 59.5% of their original balance, with the overall median debt declining.
BPS longitudinal data showed the overall median student loan borrower owed 80% of their original balance 12 years after postsecondary entry.
September 2024 CBO data showing balance increases on 57% of federal loans measured individual loans rather than cohort-wide median debt held per college graduate.

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[1] ed.gov [2] ed.gov [3] pnpi.org [4] equityinhighered.org [5] higheredtoday.org [6] tcf.org [7] cbo.gov [8] cbo.gov

"Baccalaureate and Beyond" "2008" "2021" "amount owed" OR "balance" median student loan debt 12 years after graduation 2008 2009 2021 NCES NCES "2008/18" "Baccalaureate and Beyond" median debt graduation owed "Baccalaureate and Beyond" "2008/18" "median" "student loan" "12 years" "median" "amount owed" "amount borrowed" "80%" OR "113%" Baccalaureate and Beyond student loan debt 12 years after graduation 2008 2009 2021 Federal Reserve student loan balance 12 years after graduation 2008 2009 "Scott-Clayton" "12 years" "median" "student loan" "owed"

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