Shapiro: If China reaches AI superintelligence first, state corporatism wins
Ben Shapiro · OpenAI's GPT-5 Flop, AI's Unlimited Market, China's Big Advantage, Rise in Socialism, Housing Crisis · Aug 9, 2025 · at 42:48
Political commentator Ben Shapiro discusses the geopolitics of AI development on The All-In Podcast, arguing that a Chinese victory in the superintelligence race would validate state-driven corporatism.
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“If they get there first, then corporatism wins.”
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