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“And what we found was that on the lower level uses of force, there are racial differences that we couldn't explain. And we put them through formal bias test, and there is bias that goes on in the lower level uses of force. What we didn't find was any, that tha…”

“Well, their results would say, look, if 80% of the effect is happening before people ever hit the market, that means we need to spend more time in K through 12 education.”

“It's not whether or not there's a disparity in the test scores that, that should cause you to throw out the test.”

“If companies have bias, then Meritocracy is completely consistent with a DEI strategy. Because what you, because if you're getting to your talent frontier and you have bias, you're removing that bias and you're saying, look, I'm just going to hire the best p…”

“When we paid kids to, so we did two types of experiments. One, we paid them for inputs, right? So we paid them to do specific behaviors or accomplish very specific things that we wanted them to do. Do your homework. Come to school. Don't beat people up. Stuff …”

“On the other hand, when we designed experiments exactly as economic theory thought we should, which is you pay for the actual output, not the input, we got nothing.”

“We took those five things and we put them in a randomized experiment in Houston in the worst 20 schools there. And what we showed was that In three years in the secondary schools, you could close, ah, the racial achievement gap in math, and in five to seven ye…”

“And what they found out was that that 33% went down to seven percent.”

“If you have the 90th percentile, there's been a lot of convergence between blacks and whites in the last 30 or 40 years, right? But if you're at the median, there's been no, the black white wage gap at the median is the same today as it was in 1950.”

“What I noticed was these tools were beautiful, but used for silly things. And the things that were most important for American optimism like how do people get jobs that are equated with their skill level? How do you actually make true equal opportunity in Amer…”

“We went around to charter schools, some successful and some not, and we used their flexibility and their natural variation in their policies and how they, what they do with kids and their pedagogy, et cetera, to extract from that five things that explain 50% …”

“I, in my experience Executives really want meritocracy. They don't know how to say it in the right way, and they're trying to figure out that it's more of a comms problem than it is the substance problem.”