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“Well, the real reason was that the board was concerned that Sam was not telling the truth. He was He just was not a reliable source of information, and it wasn't just the board members who felt that, there were top executives who felt that as well.”

“Last week I talked to some people in the valley and A couple of times it came up that there are the, there's growing discontent about Sam Altman's general lack of focus and people are saying he's disorganized and they're trying too many things.”

“Demis tried to break away from Google and also become something like a non-profit. He spent years trying to do that, and spent a lot of money and time trying to do that, and they both failed to create these structures of Responsible governance.”

“And I think that's kind of the trap that Sam and his company has kind of put themselves in by just releasing a lot of demo wear, which is very exciting, and if you start getting people too excited for too long a time, and then you don't give them anything then…”

“And I think that actually has a big downside when you're actually trying to sell something packaged like that to businesses, which is that you're giving them this Swiss army knife of a tool that has all these general capabilities, and the risk is that your end…”

“It's gonna take way more time than that. And that's been the case with every major tech revolution, whether it was search or desktop or mobile.”

“One kind of mid-tier AI startup was asked, so how much would you pay for, like, a senior AI kind of executive, and they said, it's Basically around over the course of four years, six million dollars. I've heard elsewhere, you know, two to three million dollars…”

“They can totally afford this, and they can afford to keep spending like this for the next few years at least.”

“And Demis also has an incredible almost obsession with winning a Nobel prize. This is what I've heard from people who worked with him. That was kind of the goals that he put for the company.”

“If I was going to look at those three things, like the voice interface, Sora, and reasoning capabilities, Hands down, the bigger deal is reasoning capabilities.”

“It will become a really important component of making a business more productive, but it will be really hard to measure exactly how it does that in numbers.”

“Demis did it first. He was actually the first kind of put his neck on the line as a among the scientific community to do something that was really a fringe theory back in the, in 2010 and started a company that actually wanted to build human level AI.”

“Open AI hasn't actually used the word agent once in its announcement, and it doesn't sound like any of its scientists have talked about that either.”