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“Like, sometimes people go, we're really excited to announce that this is now open source, meaning we don't want to take care of it anymore, so go live over there. We'll give it to the community, except they haven't actually identified anyone in the community w…”

“There was, like, a very critical bug that was found in OpenSSL, and the question Was, well, why did nobody find this before? And the answer was, because there are, like, two, there's one paid person, and there's, like, 10 volunteers that are working on this.”

“You still need people to think about, like, why are we building it this way, or what does the actual system look like? And that role is actually kind of being filled lately by companies like Google or Facebook that have the resources to make big strides the wa…”

“Oh, I said I hate the term open source, which is admittedly it was a little bit inflammatory to say that. I felt very, I felt this tension coming in as an outsider and talking to some people who strongly believe this one thing is definitely a core value of ope…”

“You can't have a completely decentralized system. You have just enough management somewhere in there.”

“So you can have projects like OpenSSL might be a project that was really, really popular. Lots of people use it, but not actually healthy. Until we separate those things out, then you have the problem of people saying, well, if it's, you know, if no one's main…”

“Code by itself does not make an open source project. You have to have all these other types of skill sets, and that's, like, one of the biggest issues that I've seen where people don't really understand the value of a healthy community.”

“I still, I think that we're just in this sort of like transition period from open source practices that worked in like the nineties or early 2000 or whatever, pre-get life and have to like recognize that some things are just not the same anymore.”