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CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Held up
Giannini: A Broad Distressed Debt Cycle Will Not Materialize
“There's not going to be a distress cycle. Sorry, there'll be some distress deals that are interesting, I'm sure, but you sort of had this period where, oh my gosh, things are going bad, let's raise a distress debt fund, and they still are trying, but just tell…”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 57:24 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: A Large Number of Venture-Backed Companies Will Fail
“I think certainly on the venture side, there's no doubt that you're going to see a lot of venture companies just hit the wall.”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 13:51 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Recent PE Vintages Will Deliver Lower IRRs and Disappointing Returns
“We will have elongated hold periods, which means IRRs are coming down. Now, presumably the public market returns are also coming down from what they were the last five, 10 years. But I think people need to recognize that. I know general partners in particular …”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 16:55 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Global Tech Leaders Will Split Into Regional Entities Like Apple
“If you wanted to make money in smartphones, 20 years ago, whenever it was, you invested in Apple, and you had a global industry leader. That's not going to happen anymore. You will have Apple US, Apple China”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 1:05:31 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Private equity GP-to-GP deals deliver the same returns as other exits
“We've run numbers. The return is basically the same. There's no real difference between A GP to GP deal return and a non-GP to GP deal return. So there's no advantage or disadvantage.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 42:19 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: LP Overallocation and GP Fund Expansion Will Cause an Inevitable Shakeout
“It's kind of this two forces colliding, and I think it's going to lead to a reasonable shakeout under any market scenario. I don't care if the market Flattens out here, goes up here a little. It will take a market going up 50% for some of this to ease, and tha…”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 44:27 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Venture capital is entering a difficult five-year downturn
“That cyclicality has not been changed, and I suspect we're in for a fairly difficult period of time in the venture world. And unfortunately, That takes time. Look at the 2000 and I'm not at all suggesting we're going to be like 2000. I don't think we are, but …”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 47:30 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2037
Giannini: Portfolios will be 50% private and 50% public within 15 years
“I believe in 10 years, 15 years, that portfolios will, by and large, be 50% private, 50% public.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 1:04:53 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Partly held up
Giannini: Global Economies Face Shallow Recession, Not 2008 Crisis
“I think that inflation peaked a while back and is headed down. I don't know if it'll get down to two percent. I don't think it really matters. I think the most global economies outside of perhaps China are going to go into a recession and it will be a shallow …”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 7:59 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: LP Capital Crunch Will Pressure Private Equity for Years
“So I think this is really where the industry is going to have a pressure point over the next two, three, four years. This is not a, oh, the market goes up 20% and everything's magically solved.”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 29:18 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Newer PE managers will struggle over next two to three years
“I don't think being a newer manager in the next two or three years, unless you have some incredibly great area you're in, or have something unique, are going to do very well. It just seems like the more conservative, I'll call them, organizations are Probably …”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 42:43 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe Apr 2033
Giannini: Private Wealth Will Grow for 10 Years but Favor Scaled GPs
“That will continue to be a growing part of the market. It will have hiccups. We saw the ones at the end of last year on some of the name products, and so I think people need to be careful in terms of how they're selling into that market, the investor base that…”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 47:58 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Held up
Giannini: Bank retrenchment will drive continued expansion in private credit
“The movement away from traditional sources of credit Is only going to continue. Banks are getting out of that business, and what's happened in the U.S. With Silicon Valley and Signature, I mean, there's just going to be more need for private credit. The amount…”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 53:47 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Active Co-Investor Demand Per Deal Dropped From 50 to 12
“Three years ago, on any deal, there were a 150 people that said they wanted to do a co-invest on that deal. Maybe 50 of them actually ended up answering the phone and doing it, and now it's down to 10, eight, 12. It has very, very significantly shrunk the univ…”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 1:00:52 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: ESG will remain superficial talk or political tools without clear metrics
“Until we get there, I just think ESG will be either a bunch of happy talk on one side, or a bunch of political tools, essentially, on the other side.”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 1:02:46 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Giannini: Middle-market return dispersion is vast and widened over 10 years
“The larger firms, the largest, have a narrower dispersion of return. In other words, the difference in return is not that great between XYZ big firm. Don't tell them that, because they're also a top quartile. In the mid-market, there's a vast spread of return.…”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 39:08 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini predicts private wealth will become huge participants in private markets
“I think the high net worth investor, the wealth channel, will be a huge participant in the private markets, and they should be.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 1:03:27 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Giannini: PE Deal Volume Slowed but Top Asset Multiples Remain High
“What's happening now is the deal activity has slowed. There's no question, especially compared to what it was in the heyday of 21, 20. What you're seeing in this market today is on the equity side, The deals being done are really good companies. Great companie…”
Mario Giannini Apr 17, 2023 ▶ 18:34 Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Private markets firms shifted from single strategies to multi-asset platforms
“On the investing side, again, one of the big changes in the industry over the years is everyone always used to do one thing, like you did private equity or you did private credit. Now you do everything and we do everything.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 13:07 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Giannini: In 10 years, PE will center on portfolio construction
“I think in 10 years you and I will have this conversation and we will be talking about portfolio construction and whether we're leaning more into growth, more into this, more into that, whatever.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 35:05 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Giannini: Hamilton Lane touches nearly $1T across AUM and advisement
“We are now about 550 people, which doesn't sound very large compared to a lot of companies, but when you're from four, it sounds huge. We are 150, hundred sixty billion under assets under management with another eight hundred billion under advisement, so we're…”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 10:49 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Giannini: 30% of private equity deals historically are sponsor-to-sponsor exits
“30% of deals in private equity, and this is over time, have gone from one general partner to another.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 42:10 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Giannini: Almost all private equity funds have large international LP bases
“Nobody, well, except the smallest funds, nobody has a fund that doesn't have a huge international component.”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 50:49 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
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