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“We are also working on which combination of defense, intervention, and even counterattack In order to tell people that if they attack Americans in cyberspace, at a certain level, we're gonna regard that as an attack.”

“Jim Comey is basically telling the truth. The Chinese government-sponsored and at kind of one arm's length proxy I.T. Aggressor, ah, services are large, they're smart and they're largely unopposed in this country”

“I could never get Homeland Security, quite honestly, because I thought they had the attitude that they wanted this bureaucratically. I mean, all bureaucracies want things, and they wanted this, but they didn't have the capability.”

“When it shades into hubris and risk taking, it's a problem. And I just say that because that could ruin everything. Putin can't ruin everything. And, you know, ISIS can't ruin everything. That could ruin everything.”

“Pretty soon we'll, I won't be launching any more of those satellites.”

“Companies that know how to deal with the bureaucracy have an advantage over ones that have the best technology.”

“First, industry is not, and I'm not sure I understand why, but for 10 years or so, as the cyber threat has been growing, industry around the world has not been investing adequately in its protection. They're beginning to do that now. And so people at the CEO l…”

“NSA, which is part of the Department of Defense, that's what Edward Snowden did. And he wasn't caught in the act over a period of months doing something that had no reasonable association with his job, ah, at all.”

“A lot of the threat information that the government collects in the counterintelligence area, counterterrorism, protect our own networks area, some of it's germane, but a lot of it is not really germane to these commercial attacks. Said differently, the govern…”

“In most cases in technology today, we, the Defense Department, we play the role in the ecosystem of a devourer of outside technology.”

“One is, we are going to be one of the innovators of new techniques, and we'll do them even if they're expensive, because we have to protect our networks. And so, just as in other Technologies where we have been willing to pay more for innovation and to do the …”

“And so somebody's gonna make an, a hell of a lot of money Who figures out how to brand That architecture, and can credibly say, I'll put together an architecture for you, non-tech company, as good as the one Alex is going to put together for a tech company and…”

“I'm determined in this, we're doing this, that even in the time of budget pressure, sequester, and all that, that we keep our basic research funding going at a very brisk rate, that, that is things that are a real reach, that the commercial world won't invest …”

“What you have to do is make sure that the innovators Are linked to the, ah, users and developers, and the only way to do that is what I call sort of animal proximity. They have to be, they have to have, know each other, be together enough.”

“You can't be passive anymore in, in network defense. You can't just put firewalls around. It doesn't work. You have to patrol the walls and look for people who are drilling holes and people who are climbing over your wall.”

“The insider threat really is the one that security specialists fear the most.”

“They don't quite know Why it could be detrimental to their business to be insecure. They understand the reputational part of it, but not necessarily the instrumental part. And these are real, real, one of the threats to them is real world competitors elsewhere…”

“The short answer to your question is, I've been waiting for Godot here for many years, I certainly hope that this is the beginning of a wake-up call, but I, I'm skeptical.”