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“So this phantom AGI, someday with AI, they can do everything a human can do. I think we're very far away from that. I would say, you know, like decades away, maybe even longer.”

“I've been in the room where some of these businesses said stuff to regulators that was just not true.”

“There are so many projects that used to take, you know, six engineers, half a year to build, that today I or one of my engineers can build in the weekend.”

“The fresh college grads know AI. We can't find enough of them. So many businesses would love to hire those fresh college grads.”

“I hope we can get much closer to five, six or more percent GDP growth. When looking at the future, it turns out one of the most expensive things in today's world is intelligence. This is why it's so expensive, at least in the US, to hire a highly skilled docto…”

“China especially has been really taking the lead or, well, Taking a lead or getting up there in terms of releasing tons of really good open way models. So I would say if not, it is kind of not whatever predicted, you know, a decade ago that China AI would end …”

“Open-weight models are a key part of the AI supply chain, and China releasing, you know, free low-cost or free models into that key part of supply chain means it's, Really starting to build up a lead, right, in, in build up a commanding user base”

“I think we're seeing that right now with a lot of VC subsidized, you know, AI coding the laws of physics or the laws of finance says that at some point, right, this can't go on forever.”

“I actually think that a decade from now, we will still be working to identify Valuable applications and enterprises and building them. Having said that, we will make a lot of progress over the next one or two years, but we're not going to be done, you know, ev…”

“Writing code by hand is becoming obsolete, right? Oh, really don't do that. Not, but they get AI to write code for you.”

“So when an industry is immature, it turns out where to draw those boundaries to let different participants do their part and have it still interoperate. That's less clear. But then as the industry matures in this You know, more standards for if I want to publi…”

“So what I'm seeing is for the application layer, there is very clear ROI. I think it's fantastic. So someone else trained these models who can build applications for, you know, a 100,000 dollars or a million dollars and start generating ROI.”

“So, there's so many things that, you know, would have taken a team of six engineers, like, three months to build, that now, today, one of my friends or I was just building on a weekend.”

“I find that many companies have, really have excess demand, which is a very rare problem to have, but so many people want more OM inference, want more tokens generated, and we just don't have the semiconductors and data centers and electricity to meet the dema…”

“I feel like AGI has been overhyped. And so for a long time, there'll be a lot of things that humans can do that AI cannot.”

“In my career working in AI, I have yet to meet a single person that ever felt like they had enough compute.”

“I often look at AI coding assistance as a harbinger for what might happen to other job functions as well, as the AI marketing tools become more efficient, as the AI recruiting tools become more efficient, the AI finance tools become more efficient. So I often …”

“Until and unless we built, you know, AI avatars that can interview employees doing the work, and better visual AI that can look at the computer monitor, I think, maybe eventually, you know, but I think at least right now, for the next year or two, I think ther…”

“I think software engineering is a hard bringer of what will happen in other disciplines, because the tools are most advanced in software engineering.”

“And for the next decade, we'll be looking at the work that needs to be done and figuring out how to map it to agentic workflows.”