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BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Autonomous AI Hacking Will Be Standard in Three to Six Months
“In a way, I'm really glad this happened, because it is a warning of what we need to get ready for maybe something about three to six months from now, what's going to become standard, right?”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 4:15 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Autonomous OpenAI Model Is Capable of Executing 12-Hour Heists
“Because what you really don't want is you don't want somebody to be able to say to their model, hey, I would like to steal the, I would like to steal money, go figure it out for me, and then let it work for 12 hours, and just steal money for you. Which is, thi…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 11:56 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
Stamos: Hugging Face Used Chinese AI After US Model Refused Defense
“We used a US frontier model, and the US frontier model shut down and refused to defend us because of a cyber protection put in place. Those are the cyber protections that were required by the Trump administration. So we had to switch to a Chinese model to defe…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 17:24 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Banning vulnerability-finding AI will force US firms onto Chinese models
“What would be terrible for the entire American AI and cybersecurity industries is if the Trump administration defines a jailbreak as having any ability to find any vulnerability in code, because then all of us have to go to Chinese models.”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:18:04 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: US CIOs contract Chinese open-weight models as backups against regulation
“And so now, this week, CIs and CTOs are signing contracts to have open weight models on different hosts, on U.S. Hosts. They're not using Chinese hosts, but they're using Chinese models on as backups through LLM routers because political risk Is now a risk of …”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:19:27 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Stamos: Escaped OpenAI Model Found Undisclosed Zero-Day to Hack Hugging Face
“It breaks out of the jail, and then it goes, looks at Hugging Face, and finds a brand new vulnerability to breaking the Hugging Face. They have not announced it. I have heard what it is. I'm not gonna make news here, because I don't know exactly what the patch…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 7:51 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Broad AI bug-finding bans will force US cybersecurity to Chinese models
“What would be terrible for the entire American AI and cybersecurity industries is if the Trump administration defines a jailbreak as having any ability to find any vulnerability in code, because then all of us have to go to Chinese models.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 17:12 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
CTOs are deploying Chinese open-weight models as domestic regulatory backups
“And so now this week, CIs and CTOs are signing contracts to have open weight models on different hosts, on US hosts. They're not using Chinese hosts, but they're using Chinese models on as backups through LLM routers because political risk Is now a risk of usi…”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 18:35 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Chinese Tech Giants Provide Stronger Hidden AI Models to Military
“The Chinese absolutely have better capabilities in-house than what we can see on the charts, right? Because I guarantee then what those companies are offering to the People's Liberation Army and the Ministry of State Security is way better than what they're re…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 14:52 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Autonomous AI Hacking Will Reach Every Adversary Facing US Companies
“This level of capability will be in the hand of every adversary every American company faces.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 20:37 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2031
Stamos: International Treaties to Halt AI Development Will Not Happen
“You've got people talking about international treaties or whatever. I don't think any of that's going to happen. I don't know what my position is on that, but I just don't think it's going to happen. I just, I think there's no way this is just math and Silicon…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 30:24 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: White House Rules Cause US AI Models to Refuse Fixing Code
“That's what's driving people insane right now in the defensive industry, is that because of the White House, American models are refusing to help fix code. They are refusing to help us find our bugs and fix them. Thanks to the White House's actions.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 37:40 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Stamos: The Presidential Administration Halted Government AI Safety Standards Development
“We've lost, there was a process in place to create standards for this kind of stuff. That process was stopped by the current administration.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 41:26 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Cybersecurity Faces Years of Total Chaos From Autonomous AI Attackers
“I think we're gonna go through a couple of years of craziness. Like, we have 20, we're all living using twenty-something years of really important software that was written mostly in non-type-safe, non-memory-safe languages. We're using, you know, for the soft…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 44:05 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Commerce Department export controls barred foreign Anthropic developers from their models
“The Commerce Department signs an order saying that the models are designated export controlled and that no foreigner, including the Foreign citizens who worked and actually built the models themselves can touch them.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 1:44 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Contradicted
Frontier AI models matched elite human bug finders last year
“This Rubicon was crossed well last year with the Opus four series with the GPT five series. That is when the models became better or as good or better than the best human bug finders and not just as good as the best Bug finders.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 5:17 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
GPT-5 and Chinese AI model Kimi readily find bugs and write exploits
“You can just ask GPT-V to go find these bugs and it will go do it for you. You can just ask Kimi, which is an open source Chinese model. It will go write you these exploits.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 7:11 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
China's open-weight GLM 5.2 rivals top Anthropic and OpenAI models
“It is within percentage points of the top closed models from anthropic and open AI in a bunch of things a bunch of evals. We don't know how good it is at bug finding yet, so there hasn't been any good testing here, but encoding a bunch of other intelligence ta…”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 13:23 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Partly supported
Anthropic's Glasswing participants found 10,000 security bugs but fixed only 1,000
“They have found like 10,000 bugs. Now, one of the problems with Glasswing is they found like 10,000 bugs, but they've only fixed a thousand.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 14:37 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Claude Opus 4.8 will catch 70% of important cybersecurity bugs
“Use Opus four eight right now, and I guarantee you'll get 70% of the bugs you care about.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 15:56 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Frontier AI matched top human bug finders in 2025
“This Rubicon was crossed well last year with the Opus four series with the GPT five series. That is when the models became better or as good or better than the best human bug finders and not just as good as the best Bug finders.”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:06:08 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Glasswing found 10,000 bugs but only fixed 1,000
“Glasswing is they found like 10,000 bugs, but they've only fixed a thousand. Right. So like you do not want a 10 to one ratio of the bugs you found to fixed.”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:15:31 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Running Opus 4.8 will catch 70% of critical bugs
“Use Opus four eight right now, and I guarantee you'll get 70% of the bugs you care about.”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:16:52 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Stamos: NIST research proves models cannot be fully immune to jailbreaks
“No, there's actually a paper from NIST. It's like a kind of a Godel completeness theorem kind of paper that basically says it's impossible to make a model that is completely not jailbreakable.”
Alex Stamos Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:17:20 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
a16z Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Preventing initial network intrusion in companies over 24 employees is impossible
“No enterprise with more than a couple dozen people is gonna keep the bad guys from first getting a foothold in their network. That's impossible.”
Alex Stamos Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 12:13 a16z Podcast | Security’s Wakeup Call
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Stamos: Individual targets cannot protect themselves online against determined attackers
“The kind of inconvenient truth of the tech industry right now is that there's pretty much nothing a individual person can do to be safe online if they're targeted by a bad guy.”
Alex Stamos Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 22:24 a16z Podcast | Security’s Wakeup Call
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Advanced AI Cybersecurity Evaluations Will Require Physical Air-Gapping
“And I expect what's going to happen now is that these things are going to be completely and totally physically sandboxed, right? Like, you're going to have to run them in physically disconnected If it needs packages, you're gonna have to move the packages over…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 9:23 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Stamos: Fine-Tuning Open AI Models for Cyberattacks Costs Only Thousands
“If you take those models and you bring them into your own lab and you have a training set of labeled vulnerabilities, if you have a cyber gym, then you can make them much better yourself. And the amount of resources it takes to do that is not extremely high. I…”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 14:27 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Stamos: Open-Weight AI Protections Are Easily 'Abliterated' on Hugging Face
“Like a bunch of openweight models have been trained with protections, but you can obliterate those out and you can go on hugging face and look for obliterate and you will find a zillion models where people have removed the protections.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 27:21 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Biden Chip Export Controls Created a Massive Chinese Semiconductor Industry
“These chips are not something you can really control. We have found that in that the Biden era controls on silicon have created a massive industry in China”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 31:21 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Stamos: OpenAI Staff Hated Anthropic's 'Mythos' Marketing and Feared Industry Backlash
“Every single one of them absolutely hated anthropics marketing around mythos and thought it put the entire industry at risk.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 34:57 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Anthropic pulled Fable and Mythos rather than seeking a restraining order
“Anthropic decides to actually follow through instead of immediately getting a temporary restraining order, and they, because they have no ability to make sure that no foreign citizen is, is seeing the models actually pulls them down. Both Mythos which was priv…”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 2:05 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Anthropic's Mythos leads all known public cybersecurity benchmark evaluations
“So mythos is almost it is. The best bug finding model that we know about for sure. It is most likely the best bug finding model in the world. And I say most likely because we do not know what the Chinese secretly have in their labs. But for all the stuff for w…”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 4:10 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI is rumored to release a Mythos-quality cybersecurity model soon
“Open AI is rumored to be releasing something that's mythos quality really soon.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 10:39 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
NIST research proves making an AI jailbreak-proof is mathematically impossible
“No, there's actually a paper from NIST. It's like a kind of a Godel completeness theorem kind of paper that basically says it's impossible to make a model that is completely not jailbreakable.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 16:28 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2029
Stamos: Nobody Will Face Legal Action Over the OpenAI-Hugging Face Breach
“And because they're all working together, I expect nobody goes to jail. Nobody gets sued. Everybody's going to hold hands and hug.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 36:12 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Contradicted
Stamos: Anthropic Restricted Fable From Long-Horizon Cyber Tasks Allowed in Mythos
“Explicitly Anthropic said. We will allow Fable to do short horizon stuff, but we will not allow it to do the long horizon stuff that, that Mythos does.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 38:21 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
BIG TECHNOLOGY Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Long-Term Software Security Will Improve via Human-AI Collaboration
“In the long run, software is going to be much better because AI is going to be paired up with humans to make it more secure and more trustworthy, but it's going to take us years to do that and to clear out the two decades of mistakes we made.”
Alex Stamos Jul 22, 2026 ▶ 45:17 OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stamos: Tech industry must redesign consumer technology safety within five years
“But beyond that, it's incumbent on us to the next five years, we need to redesign how technology works so it actually people are safe if they're targeted, not just that they're lucky.”
Alex Stamos Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 24:01 a16z Podcast | Security’s Wakeup Call
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Amazon hosts Anthropic's AI models across classified government cloud environments
“Amazon hosts Anthropics models in the, in what they call bedrock. This includes in all of the classified spaces. So if the NSA is using Anthropics models. It is running in AWS secret cloud or top secret cloud.”
Alex Stamos Jun 28, 2026 ▶ 0:26 AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos
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