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20VC Insight
Tisch: Over-reserving capital in seed funds is worse than under-reserving
“So when I think about reserves, I would say over-reserving is the bigger mistake than under-reserving.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:01:50 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Investors should give founders capital and stay out of their way
“Our job is to say yes, not to say no. And our job is to communicate that decision to a founder in a transparent and quick way. And our job isn't to waste people's time and our job isn't to mislead people. And I think as I've looked at this business for years, …”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:09:33 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Top venture firms retain dominance until destroyed by self-inflicted errors
“I think there's a power law dynamic in venture that is very hard to break. And I think the best firms will continue to be the best firms until they are suddenly not, mostly on internal errors and unforced errors.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:14:51 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Outside VCs rarely wait to see if insider funds follow on
“If you have a multi-stage firm on your cap table that can lead your next round, and a new multi-stage firm shows up to explore your next round, very rarely are they like, will you get the answer from the other firm?”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:22:34 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Company success depends entirely on founders and early employees
“The success of a company is dependent upon employees one through 10, 10 through a hundred, and the founders. Like, that is what will make or break a company. The investors, the outsiders, the advisors, the mentors, the coaches, that part of a company building …”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:26:58 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tisch: BoxGroup will invest in and catalyze uncapped SAFEs
“We will do an uncap safe. We will catalyze an uncap safe.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:34:24 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
BoxGroup will make check-size exceptions to fund math for promising startups
“We truly hold to the idea that we want to invest in companies we're excited about, and if what we're able to invest is not in perfect alignment with the math, we're willing and able to make exceptions.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 6:58 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: VC ownership targets matter for the portfolio, not individual deals
“So I don't obsess over the ownership and the portfolio construction in a way that I think it matters on a deal by deal basis. I think it matters on a portfolio basis.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 12:29 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Macro shifts impact prior venture investments far more than future ones
“The macro change in the environment impacts our prior investments much more so than our future investments.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 15:59 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Venture capital is a collection of small businesses, not an asset class
“And that's the, like, venture gets viewed as an asset class, and it's not. These are all very small businesses with independent investment styles and independent investment beliefs.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 40:21 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Consumers are bored with today's software because none is fun
“The trend to me that's most interesting is that people are bored with today's consumer products. None of them are fun.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 1:04:53 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Startup location is overrated and geography does not matter
“I don't think geography matters for startups. And I think you know, we're based in New York because we live here and we want to live here. And just cause we're based in New York doesn't mean that we invest only in New York and Greg, our partner lives in San Fr…”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 1:09:14 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: VCs need price discipline on a portfolio level, not per deal
“It is important to be price aware on a portfolio basis, and I don't think on a deal-by-deal basis, price is a determinant of making a decision. Pretty simple. If you love a company, and you want to invest, and the deal is what the deal is, you make a decision …”
David Tisch Aug 12, 2022 ▶ 8:13 20VC: 13 of the Great Investing Minds on When to Pay Up vs When To Remain Disciplined and Walk Because the Price is too High: The Ultimate Guide to Price Sensitivity
20VC Insight
Tisch: Seed VCs can only build ownership if founders prioritize them
“Do I think the only way to buy up in a company is to start by investing in the company? Yes. And the only way to buy up in a company is if you are worthwhile of the founder prioritizing you going forward.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 9:57 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
20VC Insight
Tisch: Founders should accept preemptive rounds if capital, valuation, and partner align
“So if I'm getting as much money as I want at a price that I want from a person that I want, it's a no brainer. You take the money.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 14:54 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
20VC Prediction Held up
Tisch: BoxGroup will not lead seed or Series A rounds
“We don't want to lead seed rounds. We don't want to lead series A rounds. We want to be sort of second or third biggest check on a cap table.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 19:56 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
20VC Disclosure
Tisch: BoxGroup does not take board seats
“We don't sit on boards.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 34:02 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Seed rounds should prioritize collaboration over ownership targets and board seats
“Our view is that seed should be a collaborative experience for both The founders and the investors in the sense of a founder wants to surround themselves with a group of people that can ideally create the right infrastructure for them to lean on as they go abo…”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 8:45 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Insight
Tisch: Company Success Depends on Founders, Not Venture Capitalists
“I generally think that, and your podcast is probably helping this in many ways, in a good and bad way, there's too much focus on the venture capitalists. There's too much focus on the investors. At the end of the day, why companies are successful is because a …”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 12:33 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Insight
Tisch: Sitting between disciplined and adaptive VC strategies is dangerous
“So I think you see great firms with amazing returns just stay incredibly disciplined. Whether that's Harrison Metal or an IA Ventures, it feels like they don't change their playbook. And then there's other firms that are totally adaptive to a market condition …”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 18:30 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Opinion
David Tisch: The era of startup romanticism has officially ended
“And I think we've gotten to the point where the romanticism of startups is gone.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 19:38 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Rising startup valuations created hostile 'unicorn hunters' on social media
“So as the sort of word unicorn got spread, what to me has happened is we've seen the development of the unicorn hunter. And so as somebody gets deemed a unicorn, out come the claws and the people trying to kill that unicorn.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 19:50 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Digital ad channels on Instagram and Snapchat mature instantly without arbitrage opportunities
“When you see Instagram and Snapchat open up their advertising products, they're basically mature on day one.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 24:27 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC What-if
Tisch: No VCs considered dating an interesting category before Tinder
“If you had asked every single venture capitalist at the If dating was an interesting space, nobody would have raised their hand.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 28:26 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Assertion Supported
Tisch: Gen Z is not using products built by Gen Z founders
“The youngest demographic that is active on technology, so call it the, like, 18 to 25 year old demo, is not using a product that's built by somebody of their generation.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 28:59 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Insight
Tisch: Most early VC passes stem from concerns about the team
“I think very few founders want the radical transparency of why somebody passed, and at the end of the day, a lot of the early passes are around teams.”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 31:13 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Tech industry criticism of Amazon ignores core consumer value
“I think that the big companies get punished and shit on by our industry just to sort of feel good. There are total negatives that The big companies are contributing to, but in reality, if you ask a normal consumer, do they love Amazon? Amazon will bring them w…”
David Tisch Dec 2, 2019 ▶ 33:48 20VC: BoxGroup's David Tisch on Whether Concentrated Investing At Seed Works, Do Founders Really Want Direct Feedback and Is It Good For Them & Why Consumer Social Is Interesting Again
20VC Assertion Supported
NYC tech ecosystem lacks a mega-scale anchor company
“The negative of what's happened here in the past seven years is you haven't seen the true emergence of a destination company, right? We have incredible companies that are building incredible foundations here. Some have went, went public already. Some will go p…”
David Tisch Jan 11, 2016 ▶ 5:03 20 VC: David Tisch @ Box Group on The Future of Consumer Mobile, Developing Pattern Recognition and FOMO
20VC Insight
VCs claiming pattern recognition under 10 years experience are mistaken
“Trying to sort of assume you have it and have figured it out this soon I think is, is probably a mistake.”
David Tisch Jan 11, 2016 ▶ 11:17 20 VC: David Tisch @ Box Group on The Future of Consumer Mobile, Developing Pattern Recognition and FOMO
20VC Insight
A startup's 20th employee is exponentially more valuable than a seed investor
“The 20th employee at a company is exponentially more valuable than you know, a seed stage investor when a company's taking off.”
David Tisch Jan 11, 2016 ▶ 12:56 20 VC: David Tisch @ Box Group on The Future of Consumer Mobile, Developing Pattern Recognition and FOMO
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Smartphones will not remain the primary remote controls for technology
“I don't believe the phone is your remote control. I think there's other input methods that are going to allow you to interact with technology.”
David Tisch Jan 11, 2016 ▶ 30:14 20 VC: David Tisch @ Box Group on The Future of Consumer Mobile, Developing Pattern Recognition and FOMO
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tisch: Early-stage startup deal flow has surged to 170% AI-focused
“I think two years ago we were saying like, 30 to 40% of the companies we see talk about AI or are oriented around AI. Last year was like 90, and this year it's a 170%. You don't meet non AI companies right now.”
David Tisch Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 11:57 Building Durable Brands in Venture Capital | David Tisch on TBPN
TBPN Insight
Tisch: New early-stage funds inevitably shift later as fund sizes scale
“So if you think about new entrances as funds into the early stage market, most of the ambition is to become a bigger fund, and in doing so, you Become later by nature of scaling your business.”
David Tisch Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 24:27 Building Durable Brands in Venture Capital | David Tisch on TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Tisch: Y Combinator continues to compound founder satisfaction and justify its equity cost
“What has been amazing to me about YC is they've just continued to compound quality of the satisfaction to their customer. They are not free, right? You're giving YC equity. And yet if you look at like the happiness factor, the MPS or whatever cheesy acronym yo…”
David Tisch Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 24:45 Building Durable Brands in Venture Capital | David Tisch on TBPN
TBPN Insight
Tisch: NYC tech thrives because nobody in the city cares about tech
“Whatever you do in New York, it's like an incredibly harsh environment. And in order to stand out and win in New York, you have to fight friction. No one cares. And that's, what's actually fascinating to me about tech in New York is like, if you went on a subw…”
David Tisch Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 32:21 Building Durable Brands in Venture Capital | David Tisch on TBPN
20VC Assertion Supported
BoxGroup recently closed a $212 million early-stage venture capital fund
“We are a, as of recently we just closed our sixth fund, so it's a two hundred and twelve million dollar early stage fund.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 3:20 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tisch: BoxGroup refuses to compete directly with multi-stage VC firms
“No, I, we don't try to compete. I think if we tried to compete, we would lose our ability to work well with others. And I don't think our value proposition is to say, pick us instead of somebody.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 7:20 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Investors won't last long without human alignment with founders
“And if you as the human investor Aren't aligned with that journey on the down and on the other side, aligned with the journey on the up as a human. I don't think you're going to be in this business for very long.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 13:16 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Tisch: Seed rounds have shifted from $1M–$3M to $5M–$8M
“Seed has shifted, the word seed has shifted from a million to three million dollar round to a five to eight million dollar round.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 19:22 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tisch: Tech expanded from a vertical industry to a horizontal category
“Tech shifted from a vertical to a horizontal. So the places, the types of businesses that venture and early stage tech venture capitalists were funding fundamentally expanded at a huge level too.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 34:06 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Changing strategy every fund cycle prevents VC firms from improving
“If we, instead, every fund cycle changed our strategy, changed how we operate, where we invest, like the style of investing, you have no ability to actually get better and to try to find that zone of clarity To make investments.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 46:50 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Tisch: BoxGroup has repeatedly missed great deals in their cold inbox
“If I looked back at the quality deals that showed up in our inbox that we missed in that, like, and sometimes we see it a year later and it comes through a warm source and we're like, oh my God, it was sitting there. Like, this is an interesting deal. Or like,…”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:32:50 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Open · timeframe Feb 2034
Tisch: Large VC firms will become larger and fewer by 2034
“I think 10 years from now, the bigger firms are bigger. There are In, in many ways, less big firms.”
David Tisch Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:35:39 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: Evaluating seed venture capital year-to-year is fundamentally incorrect
“I just don't believe in evaluating venture, especially seed venture on a minute to minute, year to year basis. It is an incorrect use of energy and mind.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 17:06 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Tisch: A Series A lead skipping pro rata in Series B is material
“If your series A lead is not doing their pro rata in your B, that is a material data point.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 37:16 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC What-if
Tisch: Crossover funds would have flooded seed without 2022 downturn
“I think if you didn't have the turn of the market in 22, you were going to see enormous amounts of capital pointed at seed.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 59:27 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Held up
Tisch: BoxGroup will not expand into leading Series A rounds
“We are we are going to run whether you like it or not, the same model for a long time. And I think what that does is it aligns us with founders who are also going to build their business for a long time. We are consistent. We're not going to suddenly be a Seri…”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 1:02:18 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Tisch: Patrick and John Collison are tech's most underrated angel investors
“I think the Collison brothers have, you know, built a investment portfolio that's probably quite unique and doesn't get sort of discussed as much as some of the louder operator angels out there.”
David Tisch Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 1:08:44 David Tisch: The 3 Most Important Variables When Raising Your Seed Round | 20VC #983 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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