Kevin Yien
Head of Product, Stripe. On 1 show, 1 appearance. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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Kevin Yien leads product for merchant experiences and UI-driven tools at Stripe. He previously built and led the restaurants business at Square and served as Head of Product and Design at Mutiny.
Everything Kevin Yien said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Yien: Aspiring PMs Should Start in Engineering, Design, or Sales
“And when you're just getting started with a new product, the people that should be doing that are the people who are building it, right? That's an engineer. That's a designer. That's a salesperson or a support person. They're the front line of the smallest loo…”
Yien: Developer and designer-focused companies do not need dedicated product managers
“The broader point is that truly not every team needs a product manager, but the activities, the outcome that one would drive needs to get done no matter what. And in some cases, this is why the prototypical companies that everyone references when they say they…”
Yien: PMs who cannot sell their product should not build it
“And I'm working backwards from the belief that if you can't sell or support your own product, I don't trust you to build the product.”
Kevin Yien: Reading PRDs and support articles will not improve PM writing
“I explicitly do not mean read a bunch of other PM artifacts. Like you're not gonna become a better writer by reading PRDs or, you know, whatever it is. Or support articles. It needs to be Writing that compels”
Yien: Most product teams underinvest in design capacity
“Most people I would say under invest in design point blank. And when you get to a certain scale, maybe things change, but like truly, I don't think most teams have experienced what it feels like to have a really high design ratio and what that actually does to…”
Yien: Great products require overlapping roles rather than strict swim lanes
“I think it is tempting when we think about engineering product and design to draw these really clear swim lanes and say, you do X, I do Y, don't tread on, you know, my area, but you need these murky overlaps in order to build something really good.”
Yien: Product managers must be directly involved in micro-interaction details
“And so it's easy, I think for a PM to say, that's not my responsibility. I define the requirements, you know, Have a menu group that goes to the next level. Designer, engineer, figure it out. No way. Like, that's fully on you, and you better be involved in tho…”
Yien: Synchronous silent doc reviews iterate faster than async feedback
“The latency between a comment or question and a quick followup from the author just pushes that cycle speed really long in a way that doesn't need to be. And so when people are trying to find out, like, how do you move faster? Like this actually is one of thos…”
Yien: Sending 'unsell emails' caused 30% of candidates to decline offers
“And when I first instituted this, I lost 30% of candidates at offer stage.”
Kevin Yien: PMs must have direct exposure to raw customer interactions
“Like, I know PM should settle for looking through bent glass, in my opinion, because whether it's a research report, whether it's something a salesperson is telling you, whether it's market research, don't care. It's been processed by someone, and PMs need dir…”
Kevin Yien: Barring PMs from customer conversations indicates structural organizational failure
“If you are in a situation where the product manager is literally not allowed to talk to a customer, There is something structurally wrong and that needs to be fixed first.”
Yien: Writing is clarity at scale and essential for product managers
“The place that this comes from for me is writing is clarity at scale, and a key component to a PM's job is creating clarity, both internally and externally.”
Yien: The best feedback comes from reacting to concrete proposals
“The best way to get feedback from people is not by asking what they think, but to put something concrete in front of them and then have them react to it, right?”
Yien: PMs should define problem constraints rather than prescribe solutions
“PMs should be doing everything in their power to draw the perimeter of the space, of the problem space. And it's within that eng design, everyone else that you're working with They can go as crazy as they want, push up against the bounds, and it filled the box…”
Yien: Delayed Square for Restaurants launch three times to ensure product quality
“We were given a pretty strict deadline that we needed to launch by and I pushed it out three times. And that's not because of this one animation, but it's because of a series of decisions where we said, this is what we believe we need to ship. And this matters…”
Yien: Scaling Companies Naturally Pull PMs Into Internal Busywork
“As a company gets bigger, as teams get more complex, It's very easy and natural to spend more time on things that are internally focused and not externally focused, and I think we just all have to have, like, hypersensitive antenna to that so that we don't fal…”
Yien: PMs should add as many constraints as reasonable to foster creativity
“At the end of the day, you should be adding as many constraints as reasonable in order to let engineers and designers come up with the most creative solutions for whatever you're trying to do.”
Kevin Yien: Product sense is making good decisions with insufficient data
“We all talk about product sense. It's this, like, super mystical thing that no one knows how to get better at. To me, it's just a fancy way of saying you can make good decisions with insufficient data, and the core of that is decisions, and so PMs need as many…”
Yien: Frontloading role negatives at offer stage prevents six-month attrition
“And if you can tell them that up front and they can read that whole email and still be equally excited to join, you find yourself any plus higher. But if they read that and they're like, I don't know anymore, it's way better to say, great, this is not a good f…”
Yien: Unsell emails only work at the final offer stage
“And so they ask, can you either not send this thing or can you send it at the very beginning? And my answer is no, because I don't know what they're afraid of yet. I have to go through the whole process to actually understand the thing that's going to potentia…”
Kevin Yien: Sales teams are research teams and PMs underutilize them
“The broader theme behind this next category is your sales team is a research team, and if you don't view them that way, you are missing out on half the value”
Yien: Relying on intuition from past customer interviews is a trap
“I can use my intuition
From the hundred interviews I've already done, I don't need to do one more interview, and that is a very tempting lie to tell yourself, because the world is changing, their lives are changing, and you need to constantly be exposed to th…”
Yien: Children view generative AI models conceptually as crayons
“The concept of these image generation models is the same as a crayon to her. Like there is no difference in her mind. And that is an insane change that I can't even comprehend.”
Yien: Layoffs reflect mismatched organizational needs, not personal incompetence
“There is a difference between you not being good at something and a business or company not needing that thing at a particular moment in time, or you being very good at something, but not in the way that a company needs.”
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