“PMs should be doing everything in their power to draw the perimeter of the space, of the problem space. And it's within that eng design, everyone else that you're working with They can go as crazy as they want, push up against the bounds, and it filled the box to its maximum capacity, but you've now applied the constraints that allow you to actually have productive conversations.”
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