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Yien: Frontloading role negatives at offer stage prevents six-month attrition

Kevin Yien · Unorthodox PM tips: Automating user insights, unselling candidates, decision logs, more | Kevin Yien · Aug 18, 2024 · at 49:49

Kevin Yien, product leader at Stripe and formerly Square, explains his 'unsell email' strategy for avoiding mismatched hires at startups.

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“And if you can tell them that up front and they can read that whole email and still be equally excited to join, you find yourself any plus higher. But if they read that and they're like, I don't know anymore, it's way better to say, great, this is not a good fit. Let's go our separate ways. Then have them leave after six months.”

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