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David Hsu

Founder & CEO, Retool. On 2 shows, 2 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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David Hsu founded Retool in 2017 to eliminate the repetitive work engineers face when building internal software tools. He previously studied computer science and philosophy at Oxford and built the payments startup Cashew.

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2appearances
51statements
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Hsu: Higher valuation for the same quality company is always worse
“Higher valuation, given the same company quality, is always worse.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 12:44 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
20VC Opinion
Hsu claims 95% of Y Combinator advice is in Paul Graham essays
“Almost everything YC tells you is available online. If you just go read every PG essay, you know, you could probably become a YC partner, basically, if you read every essay, and just maybe that's being a little bit uncharitable, but, you know, I think you coul…”
David Hsu Dec 17, 2020 ▶ 10:13 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
20VC Opinion
Hsu argues Y Combinator adds no value after product-market fit
“Once you have product pocket fit, you don't really need to be talking to anybody who's just kind of heads down, just executing, just writing code, talking to customers, you know, for as many hours a day as you can, really. And so once that does happen, You kno…”
David Hsu Dec 17, 2020 ▶ 10:56 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
Most early-stage startups die from losing motivation, not running out of money
“I think that's actually true in most startups. Actually, it's like most startups die in the early stages, not because you run out of money, but really because you run out of motivation.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 8:39 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: AI coding assistants only speed up development by 10% to 20%
“If you talk to most engineers today, like, a lot of engineers do use Copilot but if you ask them, like, how much time does Copilot save you, it's not like coding is tenx faster than before. You know, coding is maybe, like, 10% faster, maybe 20% faster, or some…”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 19:35 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: AI chat only boosts productivity 10-20% and won't replace employees
“The chat, again, will help you, like, 10 or 20%, but it's unlikely that you're going to replace an employee with chat. Like, you know, you're not going to be like, oh, I have a relationship manager at JPMorgan Chase, and I've replaced him with an, you know, AI…”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 31:15 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
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Hsu: AI workflows, not chat or agents, are the next value driver
“So we think sort of the AI workflow space is a really exciting space, and I think that is the next step in sort of delivering a lot of business value by AI. I personally don't think it's, you know, via chat or, you know, via agents quite yet, so.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 33:50 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Prediction Not checkable as stated
Enterprise AI skepticism will surge without clear returns within a year
“I do think that based on what we are hearing from customers, if we're not seeing returns in like a year or something, there will be more skepticism. So I think there is like a it is time bound, if you will, so.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 39:05 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: Most global software engineers write internal-facing code
“Most of the software engineers in the world and most of the code-written in the world actually goes towards these internal facing applications.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 46:46 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
OpenAI would decisively defeat any AI startup competitors
“I think if I was competing in startups, OpenAI would win for sure. Like, at this point, OpenAI is so far ahead from both a model and a pricing perspective that, like, there is no reason for it to go really, I think, in my opinion, at least, a startup model.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 49:48 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Prediction Not checkable as stated
Future Llama models will match frontier GPT models if progress slows
“As AI progress slows down, so if we get like Llama-IV, Llama-V for example, maybe it's a comparable at that point, like GPT-V or GPT-VI, like, It made it to the point where it was like, look, I just want to use Lama. Like, it's, you know, safe for me to, you k…”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 50:30 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Assertion Partly supported
Retool survey found GPT-4V NPS was around 14 vs 45 for GPT-4
“GPT-IV.V. MPS, I want to say it was, like, 14 or something, like, it was, like, not high, actually. But the GPT-IV MPS thing was, like, 45 or something like that”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 51:30 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
20VC Opinion
Hsu argues VC help for struggling startups rarely yields real results
“I think, you know, it is true that when companies are not doing well, they'll sort of ask for more help, ask for more advice or whatever else. But I think in the end, it doesn't actually make that much of a difference. You may sort of spend more time with the …”
David Hsu Dec 17, 2020 ▶ 16:28 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
20VC Opinion
Hsu claims venture capital advice is unhelpful prior to product-market fit
“I think pre-proto market fit, I would hope you know your market better than your VC does. If you don't, you probably have some problems. It's got other issues. And so in that case, I really don't think the advice that a VC offers you is going to be that helpfu…”
David Hsu Dec 17, 2020 ▶ 17:49 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
20VC Insight
Hsu argues burnout is driven by lack of results, not hard work
“I think if you try to really increase the clock speed and sort of cadence at which you move, but there are no results, I think that leads to burnout very quickly. At least for me, and potentially for you as well, and for many people I've talked to, working har…”
David Hsu Dec 17, 2020 ▶ 31:12 20VC: Retool Founder, David Hsu on Why YC Is Helpful Pre Product-Market Fit but Not Post and Why VCs Are Not Helpful Pre-Product Market-Fit but are Post, Why it is Difficult to Become Unprofitable if You Set Yourself Up For Profitability Early & Why VC Th
Hsu: YC Demo Day is driven by startups over-promising and under-delivering
“And in demo day, I mean, maybe you two have seen a lot of videos, like it's a lot of, Honestly over-promising and usher delivery, because every startup, you know, says, oh yeah, you know, I'm going to be the next Google or something, and then you appear under …”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 4:03 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hsu: 95% of Retool customers are developers
“Like, 95% of our customers actually are developers, actually.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 15:18 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Prediction Not checkable as stated
Every internal enterprise app will be AI-infused within three years
“Practically every app, every internal app especially, is going to be AI infused over the next, like, three years.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 21:21 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hsu: Open-source AI infrastructure and tooling is going to win
“We think the open source movement in AI, especially when it comes to all the supporting infrastructure, is going to win.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 23:34 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Silicon Valley is still largely searching for real AI use cases
“Especially in Silicon Valley, where a lot of the innovation is happening, I think there's actually not that many AI use cases, to be honest, and, ah, AI, to me, even as of what, like January, 19, yeah, 19 to 24, still feels like, ah, in search of truly good us…”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 24:58 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: 60% to 70% of AI business utility comes from ChatGPT
“I think a lot of the utility in AI today like, I would probably argue 60, 70% of the utility, like, you know, businesses I found in AI is mostly via ChatGPT and across the world, too.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 30:13 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: Best AI adoption is engineering-driven, not operations-driven
“I think the companies that adopt AI the best, it is going to be engineering driven, I think, rather than, like, operations driven or anything else.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 40:45 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
LATENT SPACE Disclosure
Retool changed its north star metric from revenue to active developers
“Our growth star metric used to always be, sort of revenue-generated, or in a new AR-generated. We actually changed it to be number of developers building on the platform, actually, last year.”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 57:33 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool
Hsu: AGI should be judged by functional output, not human-like cognition
“The trick is, if the output is the same as a human, then I'm happy, basically. I don't really care about what's going on inside. And so it feels like caring about the inside is like a pretty high bar. Like, why do you care? It's kind of like the plane thing, l…”
David Hsu Feb 7, 2024 ▶ 1:05:17 The State of AI in production — with David Hsu of Retool

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