Sodium Ion

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CATALYST Opinion
Kann: Sodium-ion battery hype is justified as CATL actively deploys them
“I think there is a degree of hype that is warranted, largely because it seems pretty clear that some of the big Chinese manufacturers, CATL included, are investing a lot in sodium ion and are actually deploying.”
Shayle Kann Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 33:11 Calibrating hype with Akshat Rathi
CATALYST Opinion
Rathi: Sodium-ion batteries are overhyped due to massive lithium-ion cost declines
“Given the pace at which lithium ion chemistries have fallen in price, and the amount of manufacturing capacity that's been built around the world, if I look at Bloomberg NEF projections, sodium ion will make an impact, but such a sliver, even after 2030 years,…”
Akshat Rathi Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 32:26 Calibrating hype with Akshat Rathi
CATALYST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sodium-ion batteries could be a near-term replacement for energy storage
“You know, we see sodium ion playing a part, and we're already interested in, and seeing how that's going to participate. I think that could potentially be a replacement in the nearer term, even.”
Jamie Daggett Oct 15, 2025 ▶ 22:57 How insurance can narrow the valley of death [partner content]
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Mossberg: Almost all global sodium-ion battery capacity is in China
“Almost all of it's in China. There's some sort of token projects and stuff elsewhere, but almost all of it's in China.”
Landon Mossberg Aug 14, 2025 ▶ 8:06 The case for sodium-ion
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Mossberg: Global sodium-ion battery capacity is between 30 and 100 GWh
“You'd be pretty safe in saying there's at least 30 gigawatt hours, probably as much as a hundred gigawatt hours of sodium ion capacity worldwide for all different variants”
Landon Mossberg Aug 14, 2025 ▶ 7:07 The case for sodium-ion
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Yao: Sodium-ion battery cell costs remain above $80 per kWh
“For sodium ion, it's still my understanding to be above 80 dollars per kilowatt hour for the NFM type chemistries, the layered oxide chemistries, and because of the further energy density penalty that you have with Some of the pyrophosphate materials my unders…”
Adrian Yao Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 28:13 The promise and perils of sodium-ion batteries
CATALYST Opinion
Yao: Claiming sodium-ion is inherently safer than lithium-ion is objectively wrong
“Saying kind of a blanket statement that Sodium ion is safer than lithium ion. I can tell you that is objectively wrong, right?”
Adrian Yao Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 18:22 The promise and perils of sodium-ion batteries
CATALYST Assertion Supported
Yao: Sodium-ion replaces copper with cheaper aluminum current collectors
“Where the substrate metal foil that the negative bread is attached to, usually in lithium ion, has to be copper. In sodium ion, it can be aluminum, and that's lighter, it's cheaper it has some other benefits that we can get into later, but apart from all of th…”
Adrian Yao Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 9:48 The promise and perils of sodium-ion batteries
CATALYST Opinion
Lubershane: Startups are not well positioned to develop sodium-ion batteries
“The fact that it's been largely developed by and is already being scaled up by the exact same large industrial players, battery manufacturers that make existing lithium ion you know, means that it's, You know, I guess it's, I guess it is a better mousetrap, bu…”
Andy Lubershane Sep 12, 2024 ▶ 19:10 The better mousetrap fallacy
CATALYST Opinion
Berdichevsky: Sodium-ion makes sense for grid storage, not electric vehicles
“I think sodium ion makes a ton of sense for the grid. I don't think it makes any sense for EVs.”
Gene Berdichevsky Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 17:22 The EV market’s awkward teenage years

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