Divestment

“So, I mean, I guess the first thing on divestment versus engagement, people often are in one camp or the other, and I would say it's a false dichotomy. You need both, because I think engagement without the ultimate threat of divestment is a very blunt instrume…”

“So divestment and climate solutions, in my view, deal with the two pillars, but about 80% are going to fall somewhere in between. How do you decarbonize a heavy industry? How do you decarbonize buildings and the built environment? Obviously transportation. And…”

“We have proven time and again for the last 20 years that divestment does not bring about any social change, and people have to realize boycotts are generally ineffective unless you can get everybody Involved in them.”