Debt Providers

“That, that providers love to give you an umbrella when it's not raining and take away the umbrella once it starts raining. Perfect. So they, when times are bad, they'll often demand you pay back faster and they'll have terms in your contract.”

“Is this is why a lot of these companies, these providers can't be helpful to bootstrap SaaS or even marketplace founders is you just don't have historical economics built out.”