Microsoft

includes Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Azure, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Bing, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Word, Microsoft BASIC, Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Surface, Microsoft SQL Server, Microsoft Research and 5 more

235 statements across 22 episodes · 79 bullish · 28 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Oct 5, 2021 by Michael Mauboussin · said 2,324 times in 64 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Everything said about Microsoft, oldest first

Oct 5, 2021 neutral
Assertion Supported
Mauboussin: Microsoft Was the Only 2001 Top 10 Company Remaining in 2021
“So Microsoft is the only company that made the list both times.”
Michael Mauboussin Oct 5, 2021 ▶ 1:26:28 Michael Mauboussin Master Class — Moats, Skill, Luck, Decision Making and a Whole Lot More · Acquired
Oct 5, 2021 neutral
Assertion Supported
Mauboussin: 2001's Top 10 Companies Excluding Microsoft Lost $460B Over 20 Years
“So if you took Microsoft out, so you bought the other nine turns out their market capitalizations are down It's about four hundred and sixty billion dollars in the 20 year period.”
Michael Mauboussin Oct 5, 2021 ▶ 1:26:47 Michael Mauboussin Master Class — Moats, Skill, Luck, Decision Making and a Whole Lot More · Acquired
Nov 3, 2021 bullish
Disclosure
NZS Capital: Microsoft and TSMC anchor resilient portfolio with ~10% turnover
“And so this would be a company like companies we own in the head of the portfolio, be someone like a Microsoft or a TSMC where we're not looking for like value stocks or kind of like cheap companies. We're looking for companies that are healthy growers that we…”
John Bathgate Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 17:32 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Nov 3, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Johns: Texas Instruments generates higher operating margins than Microsoft
“Who has higher operating margins, Texas Instruments or Microsoft, right? Because I ask it, you know, the answer is, it's TI.”
Brinton Johns Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:33:31 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Feb 15, 2022 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Eich: Microsoft was convicted for threatening Compaq over Netscape bundling
“They had the Windows Monopoly, but what they did in tying the browser to it and threatening Compaq with revocation of the Windows license if Compact Shift Netscape as the default browser was illegal, and they got convicted for it.”
Brendan Eich Feb 15, 2022 ▶ 19:21 The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
Mar 7, 2022 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Microsoft will never completely take Sony's gaming market share
“I don't think Microsoft is going to like completely take the market from them now or possibly ever.”
David Rosenthal Mar 7, 2022 ▶ 2:35:21 SONY (75 years of electronics history in 3 hours) · Acquired
Mar 7, 2022 bullish
Assertion Supported
Xbox Game Pass generates $2 billion to $3 billion annually
“Microsoft is now up to eighteen million subscribers to Game Pass, which to your point, I think there's like a cheap version at 10 and then a more expensive version at 15. So every year as an annuity is generating two to three billion dollars on Game Pass.”
Ben Gilbert Mar 7, 2022 ▶ 2:08:34 SONY (75 years of electronics history in 3 hours) · Acquired
Mar 7, 2022 neutral
Prediction Held up
Microsoft will not make Activision games Xbox exclusive following the acquisition
“People are worried about with the Activision deal about whether Microsoft would make Activision's games exclusive on Xbox. I don't think they will.”
David Rosenthal Mar 7, 2022 ▶ 2:10:28 SONY (75 years of electronics history in 3 hours) · Acquired
Mar 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Nvidia Signed $500M/Year Xbox GPU Deal with Microsoft
“Five hundred million dollar a year deal for Nvidia to supply the graphics for the Xbox with a two hundred million dollar advance.”
David Rosenthal Mar 28, 2022 ▶ 1:09:11 Nvidia: The GPU Company (1993-2006) · Acquired
Apr 20, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: NVIDIA trades at 3x Apple's P/S and 2x Microsoft's
“Nvidia has literally three times the price to sales ratio of Apple, or price to revenue as Apple, and nearly two x Microsoft.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 1:24:11 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
Apr 20, 2022 bullish
Opinion
NVIDIA and CUDA constitute a platform on par with Apple and Microsoft
“NVIDIA is a platform, in my mind, no doubt about it. CUDA and NVIDIA and general purpose computing on GPUs is a platform, so whatever, you know, all of the stew of powers that go into making that, that go into making Apple, Microsoft, you know, and the like, G…”
David Rosenthal Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 1:53:59 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
Apr 20, 2022 positive
Opinion
Gilbert: Every tech company failed at in-car differentiation except Tesla
“Every technology company has had their fanciful attempt to try to create a meaningfully differentiated experience in the car, all have failed. You think about Microsoft and the Ford Sync. You think about CarPlay, kind of, maybe a little bit works. And the only…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 20, 2022 ▶ 1:37:10 Nvidia: The Machine Learning Company (2006-2022) · Acquired
May 12, 2022 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: AWS market share exceeds Google Cloud and Azure combined
“AWS is growing at 37% annually on a seventy five billion dollar base. Google and Microsoft are growing at 45%, but their market share combined is still significantly less than Amazon.”
David Rosenthal May 12, 2022 ▶ 30:51 Arena Show Part I: Idea Dinner + YC Continuity · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: D. E. Shaw recognized the internet's potential years before Microsoft
“DE Shaw, I think, was actually before Microsoft in realizing, okay, the Internet's gonna be huge by a handful of years.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 40:17 Amazon.com · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft treats product management as marketing and program management as engineering
“Microsoft considers product management a marketing function. So it's owned in the marketing org and is much more go to market oriented, whereas Microsoft's program manager is in the engineering org. It's on the same comp ladder and same promotion ladder as eng…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 41:06 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 negative
Insight
Gilbert: Microsoft and Google initially missed the cloud wave via PaaS
“And the unfortunate thing for Microsoft and for Google, who really started at this platform as a service layer, was you basically didn't get the startups because you didn't have a mature platform yet that people were excited to build on and understood how to b…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 1:30:37 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 6, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Amazon, Microsoft, and Google hold 40%, 22%, and 10% cloud share
“Amazon's got 35, maybe 40%. Microsoft's got 20 to 22%. Google's somewhere around 10%.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2022 ▶ 1:40:39 Amazon Web Services · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
TVI was the only venture capital investor in Microsoft before its IPO
“But TVI, technology venture investors, they had the unique honor and what made them single-handedly really part of the then top tier of venture capital firms is they were the only venture capital investor in Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 17:28 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022
Assertion Supported
TVI invested $1 million for a 5% pre-IPO stake in Microsoft
“One million dollars to own five percent of the company. I don't believe they raised another dollar until the IPO.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 17:48 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Apr 26, 2023 bullish
Insight
Lasky: Cloud game streaming is now viable due to bandwidth and scale
“So with the new xCloud platform, and I was a pioneering investor in this with Gaikai back in the day, and it wasn't really economically viable, but now with scale and, Moore's law and all these other things we, and bandwidth improvements, we can now really do …”
Mitch Lasky Apr 26, 2023 ▶ 30:43 Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming · Acquired
Apr 26, 2023 neutral
Insight
Lasky: Microsoft's Activision deal mimics Netflix's exclusive content strategy
“And you look at the Activision deal, sixty-nine billion dollar acquisition of Activision. It's basically like, you know, Netflix or Apple or one of these other companies buying exclusive content.”
Mitch Lasky Apr 26, 2023 ▶ 29:48 Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft is the exclusive cloud infrastructure provider for OpenAI
“Microsoft is the exclusive cloud infrastructure provider for OpenAI, which runs, as far as we know, solely on NVIDIA infrastructure, but they buy it all through Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 2:22:17 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft employs five times more people per market-cap dollar than Nvidia
“They have 26,000 employees, and that sounds like a big number, but for comparison, Microsoft, whose market cap is only twice as big, has 220,000. So that is five X the number of employees per dollar of market cap going on over at Microsoft”
Ben Gilbert Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 1:53:52 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Nvidia functions fundamentally as a platform company akin to Microsoft
“They do make semiconductors, and they do make data center gear, but really they are a platform company. The right analogy for NVIDIA also is Microsoft. They make the operating system. They make the programming environment. They make many of the applications.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 1:42:01 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Generative AI and cloud compute convergence is Nvidia's greatest growth tailwind
“And the combination of those three things turns out to be basically the single greatest moment that could ever happen for NVIDIA.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 48:46 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Jan 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Novo Nordisk's 84% gross margins surpass Microsoft and Google
“Gross margins are better than software. They run about 84%. Lilly is also a very high margin company, running about 80%. For context, Microsoft has a gross margin of 70% and Google is 56%.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 2:24:28 Novo Nordisk (Ozempic) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Apple matched Microsoft's marketing spend for the launch of Excel
“And so I'm not sure this has ever been publicly disclosed before, but Apple spent just as much marketing Excel as Microsoft did. They matched Microsoft's marketing spend with their own campaign for it and split the bill.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:29:59 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
The Microsoft-IBM PC partnership was tech history's most important deal
“I think you can make a very strong argument, the single most important deal ever done in the history of technology.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:21:13 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
The early Windows OEM go-to-market team was only about 20 people
“I think the Microsoft OEM team for Windows was like 20 people or something. Before the enterprise, in this era that we're talking about, the group of people responsible for go-to-market for Windows was really small.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:47:18 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Apple's 1985 intellectual property license covered all future versions of Windows
“Apple does do a deal to license a lot of quote unquote their intellectual property, which of course came from Xerox, to Microsoft. Apple, I think, was under the impression that it was just for Windows one point oh, but the actual terms of the agreement are thi…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:39:01 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Half of Microsoft's revenue came from Japan by 1979
“And by the next year, in 1979, half of Microsoft's revenue is coming from Japan, which is wild.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:17:35 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Insight
Software makers must target platform shifts rather than fight entrenched incumbents
“You kind of have to counter position. If one, two, three is the best spreadsheet out there for the current technology generation, you just can't compete with them. You need to wait for the next big leap forward in order to find a new competitive vector.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:23:11 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
A team of only 65 people shipped Microsoft Windows 3.1
“I mean, it was 65 people that shipped Windows 3.1.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:52:04 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft retained full non-exclusive licensing rights to DOS from IBM
“Microsoft retained the rights To own DOS and to own their languages and license it and them to anyone else they wanted at any price on any terms.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:50:00 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
IBM and Microsoft officially dissolved their OS/2 partnership by late 1990
“By the end of 1990, the Microsoft IBM divorce is official. IBM takes full control of OS two development back from Microsoft. Microsoft ceases involvement.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:07:01 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Apple licensing Microsoft BASIC in 1977 was their first commercial deal
“And that's the first deal that happens between the companies. I mean, there's so many deals done both directions, commercial deals, equity deals, legal disputes in both directions. And this is the very first time that they do something together.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:10:00 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
The first version of Microsoft Excel was built for the Macintosh
“Far and away, the first thing to point out is the first version of Microsoft Excel was for the Mac.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:26:28 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft IPO'd at a $750M market cap with $200M in revenue
“When Microsoft itself would go public a few years later in 1986, they actually go public the same week that they moved to the big campus in Redmond, where they are to this day. Their market cap at IPO is only seven hundred and fifty million dollars, despite ha…”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:05:34 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lotus generated more revenue than Microsoft in the late 1980s
“There are a couple of years in the late eighties where Lotus has more revenue than Microsoft. And is valued higher.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:20:49 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Microsoft surpassed IBM in market capitalization in January 1993
“January, 93, the crowning moment, it happens, Microsoft passes IBM in market cap”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:55:33 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
PowerPoint creator Forethought was Microsoft's first major acquisition
“Forethought was the company that made PowerPoint. Microsoft acquired the first major acquisition for the company.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 4:22:02 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft became the first software company to pass $1 billion in revenue
“In fiscal, 1990, the year that Windows three point O shipped, Microsoft does 1.2 billion dollars in revenue, making them the first software company ever to pass a billion dollars in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:54:10 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft generated $381,000 in revenue in 1977
“They end in 1977 with 381,000 dollars in revenue, despite zero for the first, like, 11 months of the year.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:14:01 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
TVI's Microsoft deal produced one of VC history's best returns
“And that resulted in, depending how long TVI held, one of, if not the best venture capital return in history.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:13:22 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft did not pass IBM in annual revenue until 2015
“Microsoft would not eclipse IBM in revenue, you mentioned market cap, David, but in revenue until the year 2015.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:43:31 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft generated $16,000 in 1975 and $22,000 in 1976
“Microsoft does 16,000 dollars in revenue that year from their 30 dollars a pop the basics that are getting sold with the Altair, which is great, especially the first year that they're starting. And the next year in 1976, everybody's so excited about this new m…”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 57:27 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Microsoft was the first software firm to reach $10 billion in revenue
“Fiscal 95. So this is the 12 months ending in June before Windows 95 comes out. Microsoft did 5.9 billion dollars in revenue. Fiscal 96, they did 8.7. Fiscal 97, when Windows 95 is really going, they do twelve billion dollars in revenue. First software company…”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:26:51 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Regulators forced Microsoft to end per-processor OEM licensing in 1994
“Now, this is, of course, the way that regulators would look at it in 1994, and that would get Microsoft in some hot water, and they had to agree to stop doing this practice.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:00:33 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft dropped 'running Microsoft software' from its vision due to DOJ scrutiny
“And then the part that got left off later when the DOJ started sniffing around was running Microsoft software, but that is the vision here.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 32:04 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Bill Gates and Paul Allen's founding equity split was 60/40
“Initially, it's sixty-forty ownership. Bill is 60%. Paul is 40%. Later, it gets changed to Bill is 64%, and Paul is 36%.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 53:59 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Microsoft used IBM for demand creation and PC clones for value capture
“Microsoft used IBM to generate demand for their software, and then they used every other PC manufacturer to capture the value. That all that demand created.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:01:54 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Dave Cutler is still writing code at Microsoft today
“Like, he's still writing code at Microsoft today, which is amazing.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:10:30 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Technology Venture Investors provided Microsoft's only external equity dilution
“Spoiler alert, this is the only dilution that they would ever take.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:05:04 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft bought full rights to QDOS for $75,000
“Later on, before this all gets announced and the PC ships, Microsoft would pay Seattle computer products another 50,000 dollars for full rights to own 86 QDOS, sell and license it to anybody else indefinitely. So I believe the total amount of dollars that chan…”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:45:45 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
A 1977 arbitration dispute was Microsoft's only period of cash constraint
“The interim months while this arbitration is happening are the only moment in Microsoft's history where, like, cash gets tight. They're sort of running out of money because they can't really make any sales here.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:08:23 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's MITS contract required best efforts to commercialize BASIC
“And that clause is that MITS must use its best efforts to license, promote, And commercialize the basic broadly in the marketplace, and that any failure to do so by MITS would be grounds for termination of the contract by Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 56:56 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's first application bundle launched on the Mac in 1985
“So in 1985, in January, the bundle is released, and it was originally called the Business Pack for Microsoft. And it started on the Mac.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:32:45 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Copying proven products delivers better risk-adjusted returns than being first
“So fundamentally what this does for you as a business is it just leads to better risk-adjusted returns. You already know what's going to work before you ship it. Like, you don't really take market risk. So you're not gonna be the first to the market with early…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:51:03 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft generated $600M in FY1988 with almost nothing from OS/2
“Fiscal 88, they do six hundred million in revenue. Basically none of this is from OS two and the IBM world.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:48:03 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Only 360 people built Microsoft Windows 95
“There's only 360 people that built Windows 95, so it's still kind of a small team”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:20:08 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft's MITS deal paid $30 per copy plus 50% sublicense revenue
“And the terms of the deal are Microsoft is to get 30 dollars for each copy of BASIC that MITS sells, plus 50% of the revenue that comes from These sub-licensing deals that MITS may or may not do with other companies who want to use the BASIC.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 55:23 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Excel copied Lotus 1-2-3's keyboard shortcuts to preserve user muscle memory
“So a lot of the keyboard shortcuts in Excel to this day are there because they were originally the Lotus one, two, three shortcuts, and they wanted people to have the same muscle memory that just worked.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:50:48 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Steve Ballmer took over engineering management to ship Windows 1.0
“Steve Bomber gets drafted to come in and be the dev manager for the final push to release Windows one point out, which is hilarious.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:37:03 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Insight
New tech generations shift value chain power from hardware to OS
“A new technology generation, when something becomes possible and opens up a new market, It enables a shift in the point of integration in a value chain. The old value chain of IBM, if you shipped the mainframe, you had all the power. But in this new world of P…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 4:04:32 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Microsoft revenue jumped from $25M in 1982 to $98M in FY1984
“I believe that for calendar year, 1982, Microsoft's revenue was twenty five million dollars, and I think this must have been when they switched to fiscal year end and June 30th. So Microsoft's fiscal year end starting then and up through now is June 30th. So t…”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:02:07 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Steve Jobs showed Bill Gates the Mac project in 1981
“Steve Jobs Shows Bill Gates the Mac project in 1981. Three years before it ships. And Microsoft and Apple signed an agreement to work together on applications for it in 1982.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:31:41 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
IBM paid Microsoft a $430,000 fixed fee for DOS with no royalties
“IBM paid Microsoft 75,000 dollars for testing and consultation. 45,000 dollars for DOS. 45. And 310,000 dollars for an array of sixteen-bit language interpreters and compilers. So all told, bundled together, that is 430,000 dollars fixed that IBM paid Microsof…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:48:50 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Microsoft had no enterprise software sales experience until the mid-1990s
“The Microsoft you know today, as late as the mid-nineties, really had no idea how to sell or build software for businesses.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:02:50 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Microsoft's 6,000-person Office team consistently hit three-year planned ship dates
“I did always think it was absolutely incredible when I was at Microsoft and we would ship a version of Office every three years, I worked on Office 15, that the entire 6000 person organization had a process in place where we could release to manufacturing, RTM…”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 4:00:01 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft licensed BASIC to Apple for $31,000 over eight years
“So like the Apple deal is 31,000 dollars for eight years. Of access for Apple, for the Apple II to Microsoft's BASIC.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:10:34 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Microsoft's copycat apps could not win without major platform shifts
“The Microsoft versions never actually won until there was a platform shift that they could take advantage of to beat the incumbent. Like, Microsoft wasn't gonna beat Lotus one, two, three until the graphical paradigm came along, and then Excel being graphical …”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:51:44 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft had 75 million Windows users before Windows 95 shipped
“I mean, even before Windows 95 shipped, they had seventy five million Windows users.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:16:03 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's lifetime BASIC revenue from MITS was capped at $180,000
“And the kicker on this contract is that the total Amount of lifetime revenue that Microsoft can make from the Basic. From MITS is capped at a 180,000 dollars.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 55:55 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Microsoft's Altair BASIC was the first commercial software product ever sold
“This is the first time software has ever been sold. Other than the IBM accounting machinations to protect themselves from antitrust, which was just accounting, nobody had ever sold software before. This is the first time.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:01:46 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft generated $5M in revenue and $2M–$3M profit in 1980
“And Dave's remarking at this point in 1980, they're doing five million in revenue, two to three million in profit.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:09:34 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft announced Windows in 1983 prior to the Mac's launch
“Starting in 1983, they're like, we gotta Do our own graphical operating system, or at least user interface, and this is the origins of the Windows product, and they actually announced it in November of 1983 before the Mac ends up shipping, which their partner …”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:36:15 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Windows 95 sold 7 million copies in its first month
“Windows 95 comes out, sells a million copies in the first week, seven million copies in the first month.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:26:37 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Document file formats created massive network effects before the internet
“The document formats are a huge network effect thing, even before the internet, even before organizations were networked and computers were networked outside of an organization. File formats. You're right. There's huge network economies to file formats.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:59:31 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Microsoft is the world's most valuable company at over $3 trillion
“It is the world's most valuable company worth over three trillion dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:43 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
The PC market grew at a 98% CAGR from 1975 to 1986
“From 1975 to 1986, 11 years prior to their IPO, so founding to IPO, PCs grew At a compound annual growth rate of 98%.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 3:39:10 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's 30-person staff outnumbered IBM's entire Project Chess team
“The Microsoft team of 30, which the whole company of Microsoft pivots to, like, work on the IBM PC Partnership is bigger than the project chess team in Boca.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:35:26 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Bill Gates personally absorbed 3.5% equity dilution to hire Steve Ballmer
“In fact, it created some tension with Paul Allen, where Bill asked Paul if they could go to five percent. Paul said sure, and then Bill actually offered him eight and a half percent, and Paul got upset, and Bill said, I'll eat the three and a half percent. It …”
Ben Gilbert Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 1:36:27 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 22, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Microsoft Excel was the world's first graphical spreadsheet program
“Excel is the world's first graphical spreadsheet program, and that's why it wins, and that's why it's so important.”
David Rosenthal Apr 22, 2024 ▶ 2:27:39 Microsoft Volume I: The Complete History and Strategy of founding through Windows 95 (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft's Entertainment & Devices lost $1.4B on $4B revenue in 2006
“If you look at the E&D reporting over time, let's start back in 2006. They generated four billion dollars in revenue, lost 1.4 billion dollars operating loss.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:10:41 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Windows 95 lacked an internet browser at launch
“There was one thing. That was missing from Windows 95 at launch. That if you were a consumer user of technology, of software, of products, of operating systems, maybe you kind of wanted to have. And that was an internet browser.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 5:32 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Google Sheets Users Are in the Global Minority Compared to Excel
“Excel is still the main way that spreadsheets are done around the world. I bet a lot of listeners use Google Sheets. We do, too. We love it. Also use Excel, but if you do use Google Sheets, you are in the minority.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:19:34 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Microsoft is the only Big Tech giant without federal antitrust probe
“The only one that's not under active antitrust investigation today by the federal government.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:31:48 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
What-if
Gilbert: Microsoft's 1997 Office commitment and investment saved Apple from bankruptcy
“Which, by the way, saved Apple. The company would have been completely out of business because it was so existentially important to anyone using an Apple computer to use Office that if Office, you know, Microsoft decides, oh, we're gonna stop developing Office…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 45:38 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: Microsoft grew annual revenue from $6B to $80B between 1995 and 2014
“From 1995, where we start our story, To 2014, where we will end this episode, Microsoft grew their annual revenue from six billion to eighty billion.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:08 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's Enterprise Business Has Never Had a Down Year Except 2008
“The enterprise motion of Microsoft has basically never had a down year. I mean, 2008 in the Great Recession. But other than that, like, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, even through the bad Windows releases.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:34:24 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Insight
Gilbert: Competing with your own distribution channel quickly kills your business
“If your distribution decides to compete with you, and decides to make that a priority, your business is over in a minute.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 42:08 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Ben Gilbert: Windows Vista killed developer excitement for Microsoft platforms
“I also think this is the death of Microsoft as an interesting platform for developers. Who is writing Vista apps? The Win-Thirty-Two API as a potential target for my new, interesting, innovative application, it's just not a thing anymore.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:32:30 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Microsoft navigates technological uncertainty by placing multiple exploratory bets
“You're already getting this picture of Microsoft's business strategy, which is until we know exactly what the future looks like, start placing bets that approximate So that we're sort of in the mix, even though we don't know exactly what the future is.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 12:44 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rosenthal: Bulk of Microsoft's Enterprise Juggernaut Was Built Post-DOJ
“And Microsoft, the entire enterprise juggernaut that it builds, the bulk of it really is post DOJ. It is like new business and new markets that they are getting into.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:33:19 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Initial Azure launch did not threaten Microsoft's Windows-centric model
“In its initial incarnation, Azure did not threaten The Windows-centric approach. If you remember, when Azure launched, it was Windows Azure, and it ran Windows Server, and it was Platform as a Service, and Microsoft in no way changed its tune on open source.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:44:17 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
Rosenthal: Microsoft counter-positioned against AWS by offering hybrid cloud
“Actually, I would say they had some of it in the development of Azure, because they could say to Fortune 500, we will do hybrid cloud with you, and we can be your trusted partner in a way that AWS couldn't.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:20:16 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
Rosenthal: Microsoft's flat stock under Ballmer stemmed from failing to tell its narrative
“And I think what I realized a few minutes ago as we were talking is, this was the biggest failure of the company during this period. They did not tell their story, right? And so much of what we think of as the losses from this timeframe, and certainly everythi…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:36:41 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Majority of Microsoft leadership and Satya Nadella opposed Nokia acquisition
“At one point, as Satya talks about in the book, there's a straw poll taken of all the division heads, all the top leaders in the company, whether they're for or against the acquisition. The majority are against the acquisition. Satya is against the acquisition…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:05:03 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: J Allard's 1994 memo coined Microsoft's 'embrace, extend, innovate' strategy
“In January, 1994, when a young Windows networking engineer named James Allard, or J as he goes by, writes a memo to Bill Gates and to the senior leadership At Microsoft entitled Windows, the next killer application for the internet. And in this memo, he points…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 14:34 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Ballmer declared Microsoft 'all in' on cloud at UW in 2010
“In 2010, Ray Ozzie actually leaves the company, but as he's doing, he and Steve roll Red Dog, by this point in time renamed Azure, back into the server and tools business, and the two of them go to the University of Washington, and Steve gives a speech at the …”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:46:31 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: FTC deadlocked 2-2 on Microsoft antitrust penalties in 1993
“So in July, 1993, the FTC commissioners vote on whether Microsoft is a monopoly that deserves further action and penalties, and they deadlock at two to two, which means essentially a win for Microsoft. No action would be taken against the company.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 55:31 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft invested $240M in Facebook at $15B valuation in 2007
“So the terms of the deal are, in October, 2007, Microsoft invests two hundred and forty million dollars for 1.6% of Facebook. So for those trying to do the math at home, that is a fifteen billion dollar valuation on the deal. Microsoft will get the exclusive r…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:58:31 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Windows 8 touch interface was originally planned only for tablets
“What ended up happening was the original vision for the Windows eight touch thing that we're all talking about, these live tiles, that was supposed to only ship for tablets as it was originally dreamed up, and there was a version of Windows eight that did not …”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:29:37 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
Gilbert: Windows 95's true significance was becoming the internet's launchpad
“But in retrospect, the thing that mattered about Windows 95 all these years later is that's the platform that everyone started using the Internet on. And everything that we talked about in the last episode, yeah, it's all important, but it's not nearly as impo…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 6:08 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Rosenthal: For mega-cap tech, talent and focus are scarce, not capital
“Money is not the scarce resource. The scarce resource is time and talent and focus.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:11:55 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Dave Cutler built Azure's original hypervisor from scratch
“Cutler builds a new hypervisor that Azure runs on from scratch without using open source like himself.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:42:42 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Appellate court permitted Microsoft to bundle IE into Windows in 1998
“Microsoft appeals Judge Jackson's order, and in early May, 1998, the appellate court rules that Microsoft can continue shipping Windows with IE bundled into it, and also continue to bundle any other features that they want as part of Windows, as long as it ben…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:02:40 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: Windows and Office franchises generate more revenue today than ever
“Windows and Office have proven to be these ridiculously durable franchises generating more revenue today than ever.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:13:54 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Microsoft gross margin on retail boxed Windows was 29% in the 1990s
“In the nineties, the box software that Microsoft would use to sell Windows Their gross margin on a copy of Windows was 29%.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:56:01 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Google monetizes browser traffic better than Microsoft monetized software licenses
“Eventually, Google comes along and creates a browser. They also don't sell that browser, but they monetize all the traffic coming through that browser, and they do it way better than Microsoft does at monetizing selling licenses.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:55:47 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Rosenthal: Microsoft lost process power during the Ballmer era
“I think process power, I would argue, they actually lost during this era. I mean, the Blackcomb Longhorn Vista thing illustrates that.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:21:18 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Judge Jackson Ordered Microsoft Broken Up Into Two Companies in June 2000
“On June seventh, 2000, Judge Jackson issues the final judgment in the case, and he rules that Microsoft did indeed abuse its monopoly power, and as a remedy for having done so, he orders that Microsoft be broken up. Into at least two separate companies. Separa…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:13:33 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: TVI provided Microsoft's only outside capital before its IPO
“The only outside capital into the company before IPO from TVI, and then Dave went on to co-found August Capital, where he's a partner emeritus these days.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:49:35 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
The iPhone Broke Microsoft's Enterprise Lock-In Through BYOD
“All of the huge advantages in lock-in that Microsoft had built up, the iPhone changed that calculus because the iPhone kicked off shadow IT and bring your own device, and it kicked off the user revolt against IT.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:03:05 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Xbox Live achieved 40 million subscribers by 2012
“This is a group of people that went and created Xbox Live that by 20 12 had forty million subscribers.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:13:00 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Internet Explorer grew from 20% share in 1996 to near-total dominance by 2000
“And by the end of that year in 96, Internet Explorer passes 20% market share. 97 it passes 40% market share. 98 it passes 60% market share. And then by the year 2000, Internet Explorer basically has, for all intents and purposes, a hundred percent worldwide Br…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 42:46 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Rosenthal: Windows 7 succeeded by being a reliable 'Toyota Camry' rather than ambitious
“Windows at this point in time didn't need technical vision. It was trying to be the Dodge Viper. That's what Longhorn was. It needed to be the Toyota Camry. And he comes in, and he makes Windows Seven the Toyota Camry of PC operating systems.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:22:35 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Guaranteed backward compatibility matters far more to enterprise buyers than innovation
“The key to enterprise is backward compatibility. Saying, look, we don't necessarily need to promise you anything too groundbreaking. We need to meet your needs today and be the most cost efficient, you know, total cost of ownership driven system that meets you…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:53:10 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Controlling enterprise directory services creates unmatched software bundle stickiness
“In doing all this research, it seemed to me that once a enterprise adopted Active Directory, They were gonna tip, and they were gonna buy the rest of the software, too, because whoever manages the source of truth for who are all the people and what are all the…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:42:02 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Rosenthal: Microsoft's Real Mobile Competitor Was Android, Not Apple's iPhone
“Microsoft's competitor was not Apple and the iPhone, it was Android.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:16:39 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Open · timeframe Jul 2024
Gilbert: US PC Household Penetration Grew From 10% in 1986 to 62% in 2003
“The US household penetration of personal computers, again, flashing back pre-IPO, was only eight percent. So that whole doubling year over year over year, By Microsoft's IPO, they still only got to around 10% of penetrating the U.S. By 1997, 13 years later, it…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:06:46 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gilbert: Android destroyed Microsoft's mobile business
“Which would be the very thing that would sort of destroy their mobile business.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:08:51 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Releasing Office for iPad was among Nadella's first CEO moves
“The year later, we did ship it actually right after Satya became CEO. That was one of the first things he did.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:58:25 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft generated $27 billion in operating income in 2013
“Microsoft's operating income in 2013 was twenty seven billion dollars.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:03:42 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Gates Promoted Mobile and Tablet Computing in 2001 Windows XP Launch
“One of which was Bill Gates was always talking about mobile computing, so much so that in the key slide in the Windows XP presentation, one of the big bullet points is mobile computing. All the way back in 2001, and Gates thought natural user interfaces was go…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:05:01 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: 1994 Microsoft consent decree banned tying but allowed feature integration
“The next year, in July, 1994, Microsoft just settles with them, rather than going to trial. They're like, alright, look, we just wanna be done, we're gonna settle with you DOJ, we're gonna be done with the US federal government here, and in that settlement, th…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 57:12 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Vista Marked the Permanent End of Microsoft's Consumer Leadership
“The death of Microsoft as a relevant consumer technology company. They never recovered from this as a leader.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:32:14 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
DOJ Remedy Mandated Gates and Ballmer Work at Separate Breakup Entities
“Steve Ballmer had to work at one company, and Bill Gates had to work at the other. They could not work at the same company. Each of those two, after they picked their companies, had to divest all of their shares From the one that was not their employer, so the…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:14:42 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft licensed Spyglass Mosaic code for $2M for Internet Explorer
“They license the source code for Marc Andreessen's original Mosaic browser from... Spyglass software for two million dollars, and that code base becomes the base upon which Microsoft builds Internet Explorer.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 29:19 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Ballmer replaced Muglia despite Server & Tools making $12B and growing fast
“Bob was crushing it as Head of server and tools. Revenue was growing, I don't know, 30, 40% a year. It's a twelve billion dollar business. But the reason that Steve made the change was he said, we need a new leader who's going to come in and change this organi…”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:47:21 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Gilbert: Microsoft achieved 75% gross margins selling Windows via OEM channels
“But when they're selling through an OEM channel, their gross margin was 75%, because you just ship the bits to the OS once, and then the PC manufacturer takes it from there.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:56:33 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Gilbert: Microsoft revenue grew 3.5x to $84B during Ballmer's CEO tenure
“Revenue went from twenty three billion to eighty four billion. That's a three and a half X over 14 years. Operating income went from twelve billion to thirty billion. So almost a three X.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:09:51 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rosenthal: Steve Ballmer called Vista the worst moment of his CEO tenure
“In that conversation that we had with Steve, where he, you know, made the comment about my acquisitions, my mistakes, we just lost money on the bad ones, the genesis of that conversation was about Vista. You know, he was reflecting, he said, that probably was …”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:34:59 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: More profits accrued to Microsoft's partner ecosystem than to Microsoft
“There are far more profits who have accrued to Microsoft's independent software vendors, resellers, retail partners, than just to Microsoft itself.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:34:16 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Ballmer-era server products all became multi-billion-dollar revenue businesses
“These are All, every single one of those names I just mentioned become multi-billion dollar revenue enterprise IT server products that are built and sold during the Steve Ballmer era of Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:40:03 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft held over 90% share of PC operating system sales
“The fact is that they had over 90% of PC operating system sales.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:06:30 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Three-Quarters of Corporate PCs Still Ran XP in 2009
“Even as late as 2009, so three and a half years after launch, something like that, three quarters of corporate PCs are still running XP and had never upgraded to Vista.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:25:19 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft Extended XP OEM Sales Two Years Post-Vista
“Microsoft OEMs were so unhappy because consumers didn't want to buy Vista machines. Microsoft had to extend the ability for their OEM partners to keep selling XP machines to consumers for another two years after this.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:25:32 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: Cloud computing represents a 30- to 40-year secular growth wave
“It's probably a 3040 year wave that they get to keep riding.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:52:00 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft Intelligent Cloud generated $88B in fiscal 2023 revenue
“In fiscal, twenty-twenty-three, Intelligent Cloud did eighty-eight billion dollars in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:49:25 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Ray Ozzie began recruiting for Project Red Dog in January 2006
“And so in January, 2006, Ray with Steve Bomber's full blessing goes and starts recruiting for a secret project within Microsoft incubated outside any of the existing divisions.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:39:21 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
What-if
Gilbert: Microsoft would have missed mobile regardless of the DOJ antitrust case
“Even without the whole DOJ thing, Microsoft probably would have visted themselves. Microsoft almost certainly would have missed mobile because there's no chance they would have realized that the business model that Google had Meant that they were gonna win in …”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:39:25 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Acquisitions costing only idle cash should be evaluated like venture bets
“When it doesn't cost you focus or your best people or whatever the scarce resources are and it only costs you cash, then you should totally think about it as, am I willing to bet 2.3% of my company or whatever percent of the cash that I'm not getting any credi…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:04:27 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gilbert: Xbox is culturally significant but insignificant to Microsoft's business
“Xbox has become an important part of our world. But not an important part of Microsoft's business.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:10:08 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Single-year enterprise agreements drove 15% of Microsoft's 2007 revenue
“40% of all dollars were flowing from multi-year EAs, and then another 15% of all dollars that Microsoft was earning as revenue were flowing from single-year EAs.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:54:34 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Ray Ozzie named Microsoft Chief Software Architect in June 2006
“So in June, 2006, when Bill announces his coming retirement, Ray gets named as his successor in the official chief software architect role.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:37:29 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: Microsoft shelved finished Office for iPad project in 2013
“And absolutely, 100% something that happened is all 200 of us worked for multiple years to get these things ready. We had a ship date. Well, we had what we thought was a ship date. Actually, what happened was we were told that actually we're gonna shelve it. A…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:57:10 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Gilbert: Microsoft had right ideas but poor execution on Zune and Bing
“And in this era, Microsoft had a lot of the right ideas, with a lot of the wrong timing and execution on everything from the Zune to Bing.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 0:58 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Rosenthal: Azure represents at least half of Microsoft's $3.5T market cap
“Probably, like, I don't know, I haven't done a sum of the parts analysis, but I think you can say probably at least half is Azure, propping up that market cap.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:08:47 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Popular belief that Nadella originated Azure is historically inaccurate
“As the general public is concerned, Steve Ballmer was obsessed with Windows. He built the enterprise business. He left. Satya Nadella came in and launched Azure, and Azure has been great. Like, not exactly. That's not really what happened.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:35:10 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft offered $24B to acquire Facebook in 2007
“Microsoft puts an offer on the table. It's a very complex deal structure, but effectively what it does is it lets Facebook shareholders cash out over a long period of time as the company's value grew. So you're not taking all your money off the table today. An…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:57:36 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Multi-year enterprise agreements were 40% of Microsoft's 2007 revenue
“By 2007, analysts estimated that 40%, four zero, of all of Microsoft's revenue, which I think was about fifty one billion dollars that year. So 40% of fifty one billion dollars Came from multi-year enterprise agreements.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:54:06 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Insight
Gilbert: Companies struggle to enter businesses with lower profit margins
“There's this great general rule that it's really hard for any business to enter a lower margin business than the one they are currently in.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:21:06 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Opinion
Rosenthal: Ballmer positioned Nadella in Server & Tools to become CEO
“It was, let's get this guy the right exposure to the right important things that he could be CEO of this company someday in the not very distant future.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:48:17 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Windows Mobile Permitted Handset Makers to Modify Operating System Code
“The handset makers could modify the code of Windows Mobile. So, when you bought a handset, first and foremost, you were trusting the product quality of the people at the handset maker, and they had several OS's that they could buy and effectively start from.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:07:13 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: 'Embrace and extend' removes product-market fit risk by adopting proven behaviors
“The embrace and extend thing is actually a brilliant business strategy. There's already a whole bunch of people who love this thing. We want to embrace that new behavior. There's sort of no product market fit risk because we can clearly already see it happenin…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 16:03 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft acquired Danger, maker of the T-Mobile Sidekick
“Microsoft buys Danger, the company that made the T-Mobile sidekick.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:08:18 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Windows XP sold over 500 million copies across its lifetime
“XP was a huge success. Sells over half a billion copies. Gets used over its lifetime on probably a billion PCs.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:21:19 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Windows Phone's Metro UI Design Originated from Microsoft Zune
“We're defining a really breakthrough new user interface called Metro that actually came from the Zune, which is funny that that's its lineage.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:12:32 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Insight
Gilbert: Large external ecosystem dependencies make technology resets much harder
“The more externalities you have depending on you, the more difficult it is to reset, and usually a next generation technology requires you to hit a big reset button.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:35:02 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
AOL bought browser maker Booklink for $30M during Microsoft licensing talks
“They start negotiating. They're talking about a, call it, two million dollar license deal. And all of a sudden, AOL comes in and buys the whole company of Booklink for thirty million dollars.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 28:41 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gilbert: Microsoft resisted open source until around 2014 to 2015
“They never at all wanted to be a part of anything that open source developers were doing until a couple of years into Azure. Not until, 20, 1415.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:45:10 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Insight
Gilbert: Free ad-supported search makes 3x to 5x more per user than software
“If I could take seven billion people in the world and sell them Windows, or I can take seven billion people in the world and have them use my search engine for free and then make the money from the advertisers, I'm gonna make three to five X more money from th…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:54:18 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gilbert: Microsoft killed new products because of Windows-centric DNA
“You look at Courier, you look at Kin in mobile, you look at all these things that they would let them get so far, and then they'd be like, ah, you guys don't get it. Windows is the center of everything, and if it doesn't make Windows look great or it competes …”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:04:12 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft Market Cap Dropped 55% in 12 Months Following Antitrust Findings
“From late 19 99, when the findings of Fact came out, over the next 12 months, Microsoft's market cap dropped from six hundred billion to two hundred and seventy billion. Which was a 55% drop.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:15:21 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Ballmer's famous 2000 stage dance occurred during breakup threat
“The crazy dancing on stage. I love this company. That was in September of 2000. When they thought they were gonna get broken up.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:28:52 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 negative
Opinion
Gilbert: Windows Phone Lost When Verizon Backed Motorola Droid Over Microsoft
“I think the biggest moment when the door really shut is when Verizon freaked out after the Apple and AT&T deal and said, we need an answer, and they decided that answer was Droid, and they put like a gajillion dollars behind the Droid advertising campaign.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 3:17:08 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft P/E multiple compressed from 75x to 14x under Ballmer
“The P.E. Multiple went from 75 X to 14 X. The market cap when he was announced went from six hundred billion to when he left at three hundred and thirty billion.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:11:50 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Microsoft in Late-1990s Was the Peak Consumer Tech Company
“And this moment here, Is just the absolute peak of Microsoft as a consumer technology company. I mean, I think maybe the absolute peak of any consumer technology company ever.”
David Rosenthal Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 48:36 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Internet Explorer held roughly 90% market share in November 2001
“At this moment in time, Internet Explorer has right around 90% market share.”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 1:18:18 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Microsoft used its browser for defense, while Google used Chrome for offense
“Microsoft built a browser, had a bunch of share, and then kind of looked around and said, we don't really know what to do with it. I guess we'll use it for defense? And Google built a browser and said, we know exactly what to do with this, and they used it for…”
Ben Gilbert Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 2:56:04 Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: LinkedIn generates over $16B in annual revenue
“Sixteen billion plus in revenue today.”
David Rosenthal Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 52:46 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Gilbert: Standalone LinkedIn would be worth over $100B today
“I mean, if you look at what a reasonable multiple would be for LinkedIn, if it were an independent company today, It's a big company. Like it would be a hundred and I don't know, over a hundred billion dollar market cap company today.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 53:46 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Sep 30, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: LinkedIn advertising and content generates over $5B annually
“Of which five billion Comes from advertising and content, which for all intents and purposes didn't exist when the acquisition happened. They have built that into a real business.”
David Rosenthal Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 52:52 Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Insight
Gilbert: Web applications enabled continuous shipping over multi-year software release cycles
“For the first time in history, you actually could. All these companies with big climbing, Microsoft would ship every three years with a service pack once a year. It's a whole new era where all you have to do is, you know, upload some new PHP code to the FTP se…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:05:02 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Microsoft's $240M Facebook Stake Became Worth $8 Billion Post-IPO
“That two hundred and forty million dollar investment, by the time they start selling it down years after Facebook is public, ends up being worth eight billion dollars.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:47:40 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024
Assertion Supported
Mark Zuckerberg Turned Down a $24 Billion Acquisition Offer From Microsoft
“Less than two years later, he turned down twenty four billion and that they were really good for the money. It's Microsoft.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:46:02 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Opinion
Gilbert: Microsoft is the true strategic and operational comparison for Meta
“The real comp for this company is Microsoft. That was actually my next one. They do iterative product development. They put the first version out just to kind of get feedback and see how they need to rev it and get better for the future. The early days are cha…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 5:51:38 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Microsoft offered around $1M to acquire Zuckerberg's high school software Synapse
“Yeah, and I think Microsoft was one of them, too. It was for, like, a million-dollar acquisition offer or something like that.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 22:03 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Facebook revenue reached $48 million in 2006
“In 2006, with this Microsoft partnership, that jumps to forty eight million dollars in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:02:46 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Rosenthal: Facebook had $150M revenue and broke even during 2007 Microsoft deal
“Facebook at this point in time is basically break even and doing one hundred and fifty million in revenue, most of which is Microsoft itself.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:47:26 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft invested $240M in Facebook at a $15B valuation
“And the big kicker, Microsoft is going to invest two hundred and forty million dollars in Facebook at a 15 billion dollar valuation.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:45:21 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Facebook reached $153 million in revenue in 2007
“And then the next year in 2007, again, I think almost all of this is Microsoft, that goes to a hundred and fifty three million dollars in revenue.”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:02:57 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Facebook Handled No Native Ad Targeting When Sheryl Sandberg Joined
“And when she comes on board, like you referenced this earlier, Ben, there's Basically no ad targeting that's happening natively on Facebook. Like there probably is targeting that's happening through the third party Microsoft advertising network, but none of th…”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:57:45 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Microsoft pursued Facebook in 2007 after missing search to Google
“Microsoft, perhaps obvious now in retrospect to everybody, really just wants to buy the company. But Mark's, of course, not gonna do that after the whole Yahoo experience, etc. Microsoft is also happy, though, to just keep the partnership going and expand it, …”
David Rosenthal Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 2:41:05 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
What-if
Gilbert: Zuckerberg's post-2016 leadership mirrors Gates staying through DOJ antitrust fallout
“Zuck, after all the 2016 election fallout, and the shift in public perception, and having to do all this testifying, Is like watching an alternate future for Microsoft where Bill Gates had decided to stay at the helm instead of leaving after the DOJ case.”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 5:52:25 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 21, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Epic and Microsoft pioneered on-campus recruiting for high-agency roles
“Microsoft was really on the frontier Of hiring smart college grads and empowering them and letting them run free. Epic was doing the same thing, and this was not industry standard.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 21, 2025 ▶ 49:34 Epic Systems (MyChart) · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Satya Nadella volunteered to report to Qi Lu to recruit him
“God, there's a lot, and I don't know who throws the idea out at first. Maybe Satya. We should hire Chi, and I should work for him. So Harry, and Harry was all in. Harry worked for Satya, who worked for Chi. No. We flipped it around.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:03:28 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Assertion Supported
Ballmer: Microsoft initially charged fixed fees before switching to per-unit licensing
“We didn't charge for the operating system on an ongoing basis. We charged for it one time. If you got a new version, we charged another time and we did the same thing for basic and everything else because At the time, you could think we were like a substitute …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 13:39 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Ballmer: LA Clippers are far more secure than Microsoft stock
“No, that I do not own for financial purposes. And I will also tell you, unlike Microsoft, it cannot go to zero. Not a chance. It is far more secure than Microsoft. Why? They're not making more of them. And as long as anybody in the world's getting richer, the …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:29:49 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Ballmer: Clippers Will Use Microsoft-Style Long-Term Grinding to Challenge Lakers
“Our goal is to be long-term grinders on that. And we want to beat them every time on the court. It's okay to have two popular teams. Los Angeles County, for gosh sakes, has the same number of people as the state of Ohio, pretty much. So there's plenty of peopl…”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:55:15 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Disclosure
Ballmer: I directly managed engineers to ship Windows 1.0
“I actually managed the engineers. Because the guy who was doing it wasn't being successful and we had to ship the thing.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 24:29 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Ballmer: Microsoft only truly missed mobile devices and search
“So in the sense that we missed a major productivity area and we're in the productivity business and we were in the client Area, and we missed a client device. Those are the two. Nothing else we met, quote, missed.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:37:01 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Disclosure
Ballmer: Microsoft and portfolio dividends roughly cover annual philanthropic giving
“Between Microsoft and the other stuff I own, the dividend checks are pretty close to what we give away. So you can look at the appreciation, but you know, we're just above the dividend checks.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:23:41 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Gates strongly disagreed with Microsoft making Surface, phones, and HoloLens
“Disagreed about whether we should do hardware. That was a big one. We did, you know, surface was a big disagreement. Phone, big disagreement. HoloLens. Big disagreement.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:58:15 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Insight
Ballmer: Long executive goodbyes are a mistake and unhelpful
“I also think we screwed that up. You can't have a long goodbye. Long goodbyes are not helpful.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:01:14 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Bill Gates and I did not speak for a year after I became CEO
“I think it was basically from sometime in about March or April of 2000 to 2001. I mean, literally we weren't speaking. I didn't know what it meant to be his boss and he didn't know what it meant to work for me.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:56:09 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Ballmer: Microsoft explored acquiring HTC years before buying Nokia
“I'd been trying to buy a hard, I had talked about buying a phone company for years, a number of years before the Nokia deal. I forget what year it was. I flew to Taiwan and we were looking at buying HTC. They were the biggest Windows phone OEM at the time. Nok…”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:10:46 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Ballmer: Azure started as PaaS to prioritize Windows developers
“We say we're going to build platform as a service because it's a Windows platform. Infrastructure as a service, a little bit if you think about it, you're sort of by nature accepting everybody's infrastructure. It's by nature, multi quote, multi-platform. You …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:20:44 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Ballmer: One of my major regrets is Microsoft losing its consumer muscle
“One of my regrets is we lost the consumer muscle along the way, because I think the ability to be ultra ultra, I mean, we're a great company, Microsoft's great company, but to have both of those muscles totally firing, if I'd been able to sustain that consumer…”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 6:17 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Ballmer: Microsoft's mistake was forcing Windows into unnatural form factors
“I don't think we stuck with windows too long. I think what we did is we tried to put windows in places that it didn't naturally go, and we tried to be too windowsy, both in the API and the UI in some things.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 59:34 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Ballmer: Microsoft removed 'teamwork' as an official corporate value
“In Microsoft, I, we got rid of the value called teamwork. I didn't want that one. I said open and respectful and dedicated to making others better. Because teamwork could sound like a treat everybody, nice, nice.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:38:07 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Insight
Ballmer: Microsoft Office was the foundation for entering enterprise markets
“The truth of the matter is Microsoft office slash M three 65, whatever exactly it's called today is super important. It was the foundation for having permission to be in the enterprise. And yet it's a product that sits right there in front of users.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 7:01 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Verizon Chose Android Because Microsoft Missed Product Window
“Look, they would've taken our stuff cause they could put pressure back on the manufacturers, but we didn't have the stuff they wanted at the right time. They went Android.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:13:48 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Office backend hit cloud infrastructure scale before Azure did
“The office three, what's now M three, 65, the office backend, because that got critical mass as a cloud infrastructure before Azure did.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:07:08 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Ballmer: Microsoft's upgrade model threatened to cut company revenue in half
“We were selling upgrades and new licenses. And upgrades were, I can't, less than half the price of new licenses. So what does that mean? The company was headed to a world where its revenue was half of its existing revenue.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 41:45 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Insight
Ballmer: Enterprise software sales must serve as peace-of-mind insurance policies
“When you sell the enterprise, you have to provide peace of mind, which is kind of like an insurance policy. So buying more than you might be using, or some users are using, it's an insurance policy.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 46:37 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Insight
Ballmer: Microsoft's mindset of doing all software was an unfocused mistake
“We've got to do all the software that these things will ever need. I mean, it was still of the mindset that said, and that there's an arrogance to that, and there's a hunger to that. That says there's just nothing we shouldn't do. And I don't think that was a …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:34:59 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Insight
Ballmer: Nokia partnership failed without acquisition due to marketing funding economics
“The problem with the partnership with Nokia is they didn't have the money to invest in marketing. We did. We did. They didn't have the market to go. They did not have the ability to go deep pockets. We did. But if we didn't have the monetization capability bac…”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:17:27 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Assertion Supported
Ballmer: US Air Force was Microsoft's first big Windows customer
“Our first big Windows customer, at least as I remember it, was the US Air Force, and they were buying single copies of Windows.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 32:30 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Ballmer: Longhorn was Microsoft's 'mistake of mistakes'
“Longhorn was a big mistake. I have to take accountability. I was a CEO. Bill's got to take a lot of accountability. And it was the mistake of mistakes.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:58:00 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Ballmer: Microsoft entered search in 2003 with zero native capability
“And we jumped in in 2003, I think we pushed. Now, you'd say five years is a lot, or you could say five years isn't that much. You could say we had no birthright. I mean, it's just a completely separate thing. We had no capability. We had nobody who'd grown up …”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:08:24 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Microsoft lacked confidence in controlling the PC ecosystem until the 1990s
“So I would say no sense of confidence about controlling the ecosystem well into the nineties before I think any of that, or at least for me.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 21:14 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Assertion Supported
Ballmer: Microsoft's first antitrust inquiry came from FTC over IBM collusion
“This was our first antitrust problem. I don't know if you guys know this, is the FTC at the time thought we and IBM were working to divide the market because we had done some positioning. What's windows good for? What's always too good for? We and IBM had done…”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 25:53 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ballmer: Microsoft wasn't seen as an enterprise company until late 2000s
“It was the late 2000. You know, certainly it wasn't before 2005. It wasn't the beginning of my tenure. We were still trying to prove that we were an enterprise company.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 38:52 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Ballmer: Microsoft was the first major company to replace options with RSUs
“And we transition then from stock options to stock awards. Which, if you notice, I think we were the first to make that as a major transition, but everybody's made the same transition.”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 1:43:57 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Insight
Ballmer: Succession planning requires two different candidates for emergency vs. term completion
“Succession plan has two candidates. It's what happens if you get hit by a bus and what happens if you get served to term, whatever term feels like. And they're different people, right?”
Steve Ballmer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 2:06:10 The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
Jun 30, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Alphabet generates more net income than any other U.S. company
“Google, and I should say Alphabet today, generates more net income or profit than any other U.S. Company. More than Apple, Microsoft, Exxon Mobil, JPMorgan Chase, Berkshire Hathaway.”
Ben Gilbert Jun 30, 2025 ▶ 2:01 Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Over 90% of Early Google Searches Ran Inside Microsoft Internet Explorer
“So to this point, over 90% of Google search queries were done on Windows PCs, and 90% were done in Internet Explorer running on those PCs.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 18:40 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Opinion
Google+ Was the Company's Equivalent to Microsoft's Disastrous Windows Vista
“This was Google's Windows Longhorn slash Windows Vista. In our Microsoft saga, we talked about how Vista slash Longhorn was the most damaging thing to the company because of the distraction and the siphoning of resources and the best talent away from working o…”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:28:14 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Google's Historically Flawed Strategy Left Cloud Far Behind Amazon and Microsoft
“And Google had the wrong strategy in cloud for many years, and as a result, that's why their cloud business is way behind Amazon and Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:30:30 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google Dominates Productivity Users While Microsoft Dominates Productivity Revenue
“Google has the vast majority of users and usage of productivity software, and Microsoft still has the vast majority of dollars”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 50:03 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Microsoft Originally Created the XMLHttpRequest API for Internet Explorer
“The origin of the XML HTTP request is a part of Internet Explorer, first implemented by Microsoft, and used in this part of Outlook called Outlook Web Access.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 15:53 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft's Productivity Segment Generated $120 Billion Versus Google Cloud's $50 Billion
“Microsoft's Productivity and business process segment, which is mostly office. I think LinkedIn is now part of this too. Last year generated over a hundred and twenty billion dollars in revenue. Google reports Workspace as part of the cloud segment. So all of …”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 50:57 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 bearish
What-if
Microsoft Would Have Won Mobile OS Licensing Without Google Buying Android
“If they don't buy Android and they don't get started basically in the month that they did, this market belongs to Microsoft.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 2:38:01 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Writely Founder Sam Schillace Is Now the Deputy CTO of Microsoft
“He would go on to manage all of Docs and Sheets, and I think he actually managed Maps at some point, too. He is now the deputy CTO of Microsoft.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 52:04 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025
Assertion Supported
Gmail Launched When Hotmail Offered Just Two Megabytes of Storage
“At the time, Hotmail, which as you said, Microsoft owns, Had two megabytes of free storage, and Yahoo Mail had four megabytes.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 8:02 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Opinion
Android Sharing Revenue With OEMs Is History's Clearest Example of Counterpositioning
“I mean, this is the clearest example of counterpositioning, I think, that has ever existed. Oh, hey, my competitors require you to pay them. How about I pay you instead?”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 3:45:28 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Opinion
Acquiring DoubleClick Was Worth Every Penny Simply to Block Microsoft
“Worth every penny to Google, even for the sole reason of keeping the premier number one player in the display ad space out of Microsoft's hands.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:46:48 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 negative
Opinion
Jerry Yang Rejecting Microsoft's 2008 Yahoo Bid Was a Historic Blunder
“In one of the worst corporate decisions of all time, because just two years later, Bing, after Microsoft would launch Bing the next year in June of 2009, Bing would take over powering Yahoo search for a deal that paid Yahoo one billion dollars.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 1:56:19 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 neutral
Insight
Consumer Adoption of Web Applications Eroded Microsoft's Strategic Leverage Over Google
“The faster that we get the internet using public to fall in love with and use web applications, the less and less leverage Microsoft has over us.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 28:53 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Microsoft Invested an Additional $2B in OpenAI in 2021
“So after that, Microsoft invests another two billion dollars in OpenAI, which seemed like a lot of money at the time.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:18:35 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft Announced $10B OpenAI Investment in January 2023
“January 23, when OpenAI hits a hundred million registered users for ChatGPT, Microsoft announces they are investing another ten billion dollars in OpenAI. And says that they now own 49% of the for-profit entity.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:37:39 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Microsoft's $1B Deal Spurred OpenAI's Captive For-Profit Restructuring
“And while they're there, they hash out a deal for Microsoft to invest one billion dollars into OpenAI in a combination of both cash and Azure cloud credits. And in return, Microsoft will get access to OpenAI's technology, get an exclusive license to OpenAI's t…”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:09:27 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Opinion
ChatGPT Surprise Was Worth It if Google Avoids Antitrust Breakup
“As flat-footed as Google was when ChatGPT happened, if the outcome of this is they avoid a Microsoft-level distraction and damage to their business from a U.S. Federal court monopoly judgment, worth it.”
David Rosenthal Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 3:17:02 Google Part III: The AI Company. Google is amazingly well-positioned... will they win in AI? (Audio) · Acquired
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