eBay

19 statements across 4 episodes · 7 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Aug 16, 2022 by David Rosenthal · said 155 times in 16 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Everything said about eBay, oldest first

Aug 16, 2022 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Amazon surpassed eBay in market cap in 2007 as stock tripled
“It would be a long journey, but Amazon's stock price tripled in 2007, while eBay's fell by over 50%. And during that year, for the first time since, like, eBay's IPO, Amazon finally passes eBay in market cap.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:51:45 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022
Assertion Supported
eBay executives pitched Bezos on outsourcing Amazon's marketplace to eBay
“In the fall of 2000, Meg Whitman and Jeff Jordan fly up to Seattle and they pitch Bezos on the opposite idea. EBay takes over the failed Amazon auctions and all of third party sellings.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:42:54 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 neutral
What-if
Without Amazon outbidding eBay for Accept.com, PayPal might not exist
“If that had gone otherwise, I don't know about PayPal. Like, there's probably no PayPal. There might not be a PayPal mafia.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:19:54 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: Amazon bought Accept.com primarily to block eBay from payments
“Amazon steals the deal and acquires accept.com mostly so that eBay doesn't get it.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:19:32 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 neutral
Insight
Gilbert: Superior software cannot unseat an established marketplace network effect
“When you have the network effect of more buyers attracting more sellers and more sellers attracting more buyers like eBay had, and they were a couple years ahead, it was just already in full swing. And even if you have a more technically superior interface.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:20:33 Amazon.com · Acquired
Aug 16, 2022 negative
Opinion
Rosenthal: Google effectively killed eBay through superior search
“Honestly, I mean, I think this is drawing too broad of a brush, but I think Google killed eBay, right? You know, the best way to search eBay is Google. It's not eBay.”
David Rosenthal Aug 16, 2022 ▶ 2:53:24 Amazon.com · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
eBay was profitable and growing 10% monthly at its Series A round
“And an interesting thing to note is, at this point, eBay is growing 10% a month. So check, fast growth company. It's profitable. All these checks that are getting mailed in, like, it is generating cash and growing.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:18:11 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Benchmark's eBay investment generated $1.5 billion in carried interest for partners
“That's one and a half billion dollars of carry dollars to be distributed amongst the equal partnership after the eBay investment.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:25:35 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Benchmark offered $6.7 million for eBay at a $20 million valuation
“They give Pierre and Jeff a term sheet to invest 6.7 million dollars total in the company in a series A financing at a twenty million dollar pre-money Evaluation.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:17:10 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Benchmark structured $1.5 million in founder loans to win the eBay deal
“It was also reported by the Washington Post after the IPO of eBay that Benchmark had also structured Equity-backed loans to Pierre and Jeff in the amount of 750,000 dollars each as a way to, like, prevent them essentially, give them an incentive not to take th…”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:20:01 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
Opinion
PayPal succeeded because incumbents repeatedly missed opportunities to preempt the startup
“There were so many points in time where like the window should have closed for PayPal to be started. There's no reason that that company should have been successful or existed yet.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:28:46 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Pierre Omidyar created eBay while employed full-time at General Magic
“He was still a full-time employee at General Magic when creating eBay.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:14:09 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Knight Ridder offered Pierre Omidyar and Jeff Skoll $50 million for eBay
“The reason you would get acquired is they offer Pierre and Jeff Fifty million dollars. Five zero million dollars.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:18:35 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Benchmark lacked an eBay-sized investment win until backing Bill Gurley's Uber
“Benchmark did not have an eBay-sized win until Bill's big marketplace.”
Ben Gilbert Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 2:14:41 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
All five Benchmark Fund I partners made identical profit on eBay
“David Byrne made as much money on eBay as Bob Cagle made on eBay, as Bruce Dunleavy, as Kevin Harvey, as, you know, Andy Ratcliffe made on eBay. They all made the same.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:41:11 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 bullish
Assertion Supported
Benchmark's $6.7 million eBay investment reached over $4 billion after IPO lockup
“By the time the lockup expires the next spring in 1989, that stake is worth over four billion dollars on an eighty-five million dollar fund.”
David Rosenthal Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:23:26 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Sep 28, 2022 neutral
What-if
eBay might have become a non-profit resource if not for server costs
“It is funny that like if Pierre hadn't Needed to pay for the server costs. There's a really good chance this could have gone the way of the Linux foundation or Craigslist. And I know Craigslist is a real business now, but like it could have been Wikipedia coul…”
Ben Gilbert Sep 28, 2022 ▶ 1:15:26 Benchmark Part I · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Pre-Facebook VCs routinely replaced founder CEOs with professional managers
“There wasn't Founders Fund yet. There wasn't A-sixteen Z yet. There wasn't like the notion of founder friendliness. What venture capitalists did is they invested in founders companies and then brought in management to take them to the next level. It's what hap…”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 1:18:03 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Early Gmail Invites Traded on eBay for an Average of $150
“They were trading on eBay for average price of a 150 bucks in the early days.”
David Rosenthal Aug 26, 2025 ▶ 24:32 Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
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