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The NFL: How small-town teams became America's most valuable sports empire (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 28:14 David Rosenthal He's going to come coach the new AAFC Cleveland franchise named after him, the Cleveland Browns.
- ▶ 28:38 Ben Gilbert The Cleveland Rams and the soon to be Cleveland Browns in the AIFC.
- ▶ 29:21 David Rosenthal So now the war's ending, the AAFC and the Browns are coming in, and then the dagger comes right before the
- ▶ 31:19 unnamed speaker And it's a good thing they did because when play eventually starts in the 1946 season, the new Browns in Cleveland for their very first home game, draw 60,000 fans, which is more than the Rams did for the entire season the year before.
- ▶ 34:51 unnamed speaker And the roster of AFC teams is the Cleveland Browns that we've talked about.
- ▶ 36:11 David Rosenthal So the Browns end up winning all four AAFC championships.
- ▶ 36:23 David Rosenthal It's a foregone conclusion that the Browns are going to win.
- ▶ 36:25 David Rosenthal If your team is playing the Browns and the Browns do great at home, but when they're on the road, they're like, well, the fans like, why am I even going to go?
- ▶ 36:32 Ben Gilbert Watch my team get destroyed by the Browns.
- ▶ 36:35 Ben Gilbert By the way, those words have never come out of my mouth before growing up a modern Browns fan.
- ▶ 36:40 David Rosenthal Well, the current Browns are not the same Browns as the old Browns.
- ▶ 37:13 Ben Gilbert There's nothing structural that we did to ensure there was no Cleveland Browns in our league.
- ▶ 38:02 David Rosenthal I don't think the AAFC model of the Browns being dominant would work ever, but at least today you could watch the games on TV.
- ▶ 38:09 David Rosenthal They'd be like, oh, I'm always gonna see a show when the Browns are playing.
- ▶ 39:48 David Rosenthal And he pushes this through with the owners and gets them all to agree to this of like, hey, the only way we're going to survive and prosper is if we agree that none of our teams can get so dominant that we end up with a Cleveland Browns…
- ▶ 45:46 David Rosenthal The Browns are too dominant.
- ▶ 45:52 David Rosenthal The Browns, the 40 Niners, and the Baltimore Colts.
- ▶ 1:12:02 Ben Gilbert And the reason there's politicking is because Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore actually will end up losing money in the short term on this.
- ▶ 1:24:29 David Rosenthal I mean, like, let's take the Browns and Packers.
- ▶ 1:24:31 David Rosenthal How many pennants do you think the Browns sold, you know, in the city of Cleveland with as big and storied as the Browns are?
- ▶ 1:24:48 David Rosenthal And what Roselle is saying is just like TV, I don't care how much merchandise you sell, the Packers are getting the same check from enterprises as the Browns are.
- ▶ 4:09:19 David Rosenthal The Dolphins, Bills, Chargers, Giants, Eagles, 40 Niners, Raiders, Browns, and Patriots have all sold minority stakes over the last, call it, two years, and all at extremely higher valuations than they would have had this not happened.
Holiday Special 2023 (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 2:10:51 Ben Gilbert I just didn't watch that much NFL until this season cuz I grew up a Browns fan and.