China

17 statements across 13 episodes · 6 bullish · 8 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Nov 3, 2021 by John Bathgate · said 201 times in 36 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Everything said about China, oldest first

Nov 3, 2021 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bathgate: A TSMC fab shutdown sets Western tech progress back five years
“If for some reason, you know, China moved to seize Taiwan or however, you know, it went into play and all of a sudden TSMC's fabs were shut down, then you really, the Western world would be, you know, set back at least five years, if not 10, just in terms of l…”
John Bathgate Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:20:42 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Aug 2, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
US steel production has lower energy intensity than most of the world
“A ton of steel made in the United States is going to be made with less energy intensity than most parts of the world. Not all, but most, and certainly China.”
Anthony Gonzalez Aug 2, 2022 ▶ 1:43:12 From NFL to Startup COO to Congressman Regulating Crypto (with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez) · Acquired
Aug 2, 2022 negative
Opinion
Rep. Gonzalez: The World Bank and IMF are largely overrun by China
“Doing things to fix our international financial institutions like the World Bank and the IMF, which had been largely overrun by China.”
Anthony Gonzalez Aug 2, 2022 ▶ 1:15:01 From NFL to Startup COO to Congressman Regulating Crypto (with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez) · Acquired
Apr 26, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lasky: thatgamecompany's Sky generates hundreds of millions with over 30% margins
“It was, you know, in the fall, the number four grossing game in China by revenue. It's called Sky. Sky. And so we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, and he does it with a tiny team. So it's ludicrously profitable. I mean, I think it's…”
Mitch Lasky Apr 26, 2023 ▶ 59:30 Benchmark’s Mitch Lasky and Blake Robbins on The Art of Business in Gaming · Acquired
Jul 25, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Nike Was Likely the First Foreign Footwear Company Allowed in China
“Nike would be one of the very first companies, and I think the first footwear company that would be allowed to sell in China.”
David Rosenthal Jul 25, 2023 ▶ 1:43:34 Nike (Audio) · Acquired
Aug 21, 2023 bullish
Assertion Supported
Costco's first China store reached 400,000 members in two years
“The first store in China opened in twenty-nineteen, which popped to 400,000 members within two years. The U.S. At maturity is at 68,000 members.”
Ben Gilbert Aug 21, 2023 ▶ 2:44:00 Costco (Audio) · Acquired
Sep 6, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Sales to mainland China accounted for 25% of Nvidia's 2022 total revenue
“Last year, China was 25%, or sales to mainland China, was 25% of NVIDIA's revenue.”
David Rosenthal Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 1:48:37 Nvidia Part III: The Dawn of the AI Era (2022-2023) (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 30, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Munger claims China's economy has better 20-year prospects than most
“Well, my position in China has been Well, that the Chinese economy has better future prospects over the next 20 years than almost any other big economy.”
Charlie Munger Oct 30, 2023 ▶ 44:00 Charlie Munger (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 30, 2023 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Costco delayed its China entry for decades after refusing a $30,000 bribe
“The first store they tried to open in China, the first store somebody wanted a 30,000 dollar bribe. You know, Chinese culture. And they just wouldn't pay it. And that made such a bad impression on Jim Senegal. He wouldn't even talk to him going into China for …”
Charlie Munger Oct 30, 2023 ▶ 51:12 Charlie Munger (Audio) · Acquired
Oct 30, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Munger reveals he holds roughly 18% China risk in his family portfolio
“So naturally, I'm willing to have some China risk in the Munger portfolio. How much China risk? Well, that's not a scientific subject, but I don't mind whatever it is, 18% or something, whatever, whatever's worked out in the Munger family, it's okay with me.”
Charlie Munger Oct 30, 2023 ▶ 44:26 Charlie Munger (Audio) · Acquired
Jun 4, 2024 negative
Assertion Supported
Schultz: Starbucks struggled and lost money in China for nearly a decade
“We struggled in China for almost a decade. Lost money. There was tremendous pressure inside the company of close China.”
Howard Schultz Jun 4, 2024 ▶ 1:38:47 Starbucks (with Howard Schultz) · Acquired
Oct 28, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Excluding China, Less Than Six Percent of Internet Users Escape Meta
“That leaves about four hundred and fifty million people, or six percent of the human population, Who have access to the internet, but are not yet meta monthly actives. That doesn't mean they're not meta users. That just means they weren't monthly active users …”
Ben Gilbert Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 5:30:21 Meta (Audio) · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Gilbert: Geopolitical threat from China is TSMC's primary existential risk
“That, to me, absent an enormous computing paradigm shift, is the way that TSMC has an enormous risk in the business.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 2:01:15 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 27, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Morris Chang: China heavily subsidized and took control of solar manufacturing
“The solar business could have been pretty good. However, China ruined it. They subsidized the hell out of it. And they now control that business, solar cells.”
Morris Chang Jan 27, 2025 ▶ 27:45 TSMC founder Morris Chang · Acquired
Jul 16, 2025 negative
Opinion
Dimon: US critical infrastructure protections are inadequate for cyber war
“But it is, you're talking about grids and communications companies and water and even part of the military establishment. The protections are not what you need. If we ever get any kind of war where cyber is involved, and China is very good at it, and so is Rus…”
Jamie Dimon Jul 16, 2025 ▶ 49:15 The Jamie Dimon Interview: How JP Morgan Became an $800 Billion Bank · Acquired
Apr 14, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: China accounts for 7% of Ferrari's sales, down from 10%
“China is only seven percent of Ferrari's sales, down from 10% at its peak.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 3:27:15 Ferrari: What happens when you staple a luxury brand to a sports team? (Audio) · Acquired
Apr 14, 2026 bearish
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: Porsche's China delivery share collapsed from 33% to 15%
“Now, Porsche, on the other hand, China was 33% of their deliveries a few years ago, which has collapsed all the way to 15% and continues to fall.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 3:27:22 Ferrari: What happens when you staple a luxury brand to a sports team? (Audio) · Acquired
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