ASML

11 statements across 4 episodes · 4 bullish · 0 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Nov 3, 2021 by John Bathgate · said 71 times in 10 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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brought up most by Ben Gilbert (32), John Bathgate (20), David Rosenthal (13), Brinton Johns (5), Hamilton Helmer (1)

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Everything said about ASML, oldest first

Nov 3, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Bathgate: Zeiss makes the most uniform lenses in history
“ASML's partnership with Zeiss, the lens company is also like really special. And I guess like Trump and Zeiss could try to partner to, I don't think they have any ambitions to do this, but they could try to partner together to kind of circumvent ASML. But like…”
John Bathgate Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:39:44 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Nov 3, 2021 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Bathgate: Intel, TSMC, and Samsung bought 25% of ASML to fund EUV
“Intel and TSMC and Samsung partnered and actually bought 25% of ASML to inject capital into ASML to develop EUV systems.”
John Bathgate Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:44:40 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Nov 3, 2021 neutral
Insight
Johns: No single company can vertically integrate advanced semiconductor manufacturing
“It's really this ecosystem approach that makes sense. No one can do all of this. It's just way too hard. It really does take a village.”
Brinton Johns Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:41:34 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Nov 3, 2021 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
ASML took nine years between first EUV shipment and high-volume production
“They shipped the first EUV tool in 2010 to TSMC, and EUV didn't even really start high volume, and this was after, you know, a decade of R&D already, but then they didn't start high volume manufacturing on EUV until 2019. So they had, like, almost a decade of …”
John Bathgate Nov 3, 2021 ▶ 1:40:07 Complexity Investing & Semiconductors with NZS Capital (Extended Cut) · Acquired
Apr 6, 2022
Assertion Partly supported
Intel Divested From Funding ASML's EUV Development, Doubting Its Ultimate Viability
“In the early 2000, even Intel, I think, funded ASML's development, a big industry consortium, including Intel, of the EUV, and then thought the technology was gonna die, and so I think three or four years in, divested.”
Ben Gilbert Apr 6, 2022 ▶ 53:18 Platforms and Power (with Hamilton Helmer and Chenyi Shi) · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025
Assertion Supported
Gilbert: ASML builds roughly 50 EUV machines annually as competitors quit
“They only make 50 of these machines per year or so. They used to have competitors, like Nikon used to compete with ASML on this, but it's too hard. They gave up.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:27:55 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
David Rosenthal: TSMC outspends all competitors on ASML equipment
“It's TSMC's insane capital operating cash flow production that enables them to spend capex above anybody else that allows them to buy more ASML equipment than anyone else.”
David Rosenthal Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:09:20 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
ASML is the sole manufacturer of the world's most advanced chipmaking machines
“They make the most advanced chip manufacturing machines in the world. They're the only company that makes them. They're located still in the Netherlands. Their biggest customer is TSMC.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:08:36 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025
Assertion Supported
Shipping a single ASML EUV machine requires four Boeing 747 aircraft
“It takes four seven 47 to ship one of these machines.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:25:03 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 21, 2025
Assertion Supported
ASML EUV lithography machines cost $200 million each and are increasing
“Well, first of all, they cost two hundred million dollars for a machine that makes the chips, and that's gonna go up to like three hundred million dollars.”
Ben Gilbert Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:24:44 TSMC · Acquired
Jan 27, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Rosenthal: TSMC, Arm, Synopsys, Cadence, and ASML were founded within years of each other
“Not only TSMC, ARM, Synopsys, Cadence, and ASML all founded, Right within a couple years of each other.”
David Rosenthal Jan 27, 2025 ▶ 2:27:36 TSMC founder Morris Chang · Acquired
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