Gusto

15 statements across 1 episodes · 2 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Dec 5, 2024 by Tomer London · said 15 times in 2 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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brought up most by Seema Amble (9), Tomer London (5), Immad Akhund (1)

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Everything said about Gusto, oldest first

Dec 5, 2024 negative
Insight
Tomer London: Over-indexing on customer feedback creates a feature-bloated Frankenstein product
“On the other side if you are obsessed with every single piece of feedback that people give you, you're going to build a Frankenstein and it's going to be just a random sort of feature.”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 17:01 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
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Gusto accelerated its accountant channel strategy from year five to year two
“Originally we thought that it's going to take us longer to go to accountants than what actually happened. We thought it would be like a year three, four, five sort of thing. And we ended up probably at year two, starting working with accountants pretty serious…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 14:31 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
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Gusto used a customer-to-CX ratio metric to guide early product decisions
“Here's the ratio between number of customers to number of operations slash CX folks. Since really the beginning, I remember this very, very first spreadsheet that we had, and that was a goal. And every time we made decisions, like a lot of product decisions or…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 21:24 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
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London: Gusto built vendor payments after discovering unintended user behavior
“And once we started doing that, what we noticed that people start using our 10, 99 kind of contracts or payments a lot, but for another reason, another way they use it to actually pay vendors. And we didn't think about that. That was not a use case. So started…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 18:20 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Disclosure
Gusto co-founder manually processed contractor onboardings before the UI was built
“So for the very, very first customers, there was no UI yet. Like some UI was not built yet. So the UI was me. So literally I would come in to your office and say, all right, Seema, I see you want to onboard two employees and one contractor. We have the UI for …”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 22:39 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Insight
Tomer London: SMB software requires self-serve distribution over sales teams
“We saw that, you know, the unit economics here, like just the amount of revenue per customer is going to be low compared to enterprise and high compared to consumer. So you can't put sales you can't just rely on sales for acquisition, right? So it had to be se…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 29:06 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
London: Gusto founders wore suits in website photos to look mature
“Whether it's like literally taking pictures of ourselves in suits and put that in the team page. So we don't look like super young”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 12:53 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Assertion Supported
Gusto operated without a sales team for its first four years
“So the go to market side we only added sales later on in the process. So only after, so that's like, I think it's year three or four. So earlier on, it was completely just self-serve and people could call us and they will talk with, you know, either me or the,…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 19:39 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Disclosure
Tomer London spent an hour daily cold-calling Yelp listings for Gusto
“Whether it's me literally every day going into a room, closing the door and picking up a Yelp page, like hairdressers in San Francisco, and then closing the door, looking at the clock, I have one hour and I'm not going to leave this room until I call for a who…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 7:33 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
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Gusto restricted early customers to California startups running first-time, salary-only payroll
“So for us, it was so small. You wouldn't believe it was just California companies who only, who have salaried employees only. So no hourly employees, Who have, you know, no benefits or any other deductions from their payroll. And it's their first payroll ever.”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 5:29 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Insight
Founders must be able to watch early customers use the product in-person
“It's really important for these initial customers for you to feel like you, they, you can spend time with them. You can watch them as they use your product.”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 12:05 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Assertion Supported
a16z's Sima: Gusto is valued at nearly $10B with 300,000 businesses
“Gusto is valued at almost ten billion dollars and serves over 300,000 businesses by simplifying payroll, benefits, and HR.”
Seema Amble Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 0:44 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024 positive
Insight
Tomer London: Founders should prioritize passionate early users over rigid strategy frameworks
“Looking backwards, I underestimated the importance of focusing on people who are really, really passionate about helping you succeed. And by that, they're going to spend a lot of time with you, giving you the raw customer feedback that you need in order to fig…”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 26:01 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024 positive
Insight
London: Accountant trust drives small business software adoption
“Accountants are a big part of the decision Process for small businesses often. And we, if accountants believe in gusto, then that can help their small businesses also believe in us.”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 13:24 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
Dec 5, 2024
Insight
London: Startups must target narrow customer segments to drive word-of-mouth growth
“These initial customers are your seed for your word of mouth and everything flows from there. So to do that, you need to be very, very selective on a small sub segment of target customer.”
Tomer London Dec 5, 2024 ▶ 5:16 How Gusto Used Customer Input to Scale Growth with Tomer London
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