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Lerner: Internal corporate startups need P&L control and staged funding
“It's like the leader of that doesn't have P and L you're not a startup within a big company. Right. I think that is the important piece, which is like, you need to fund this as an independent unit that is looking at a business line holistically and is autonomo…”
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Lerner: Building totally adjacent products inside large corporations is a mistake
“If you are trying to build a totally adjacent business inside of a large company, don't do that. The company shouldn't do it. You shouldn't do it. It's not a good idea.”
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Lerner: Founders must own strategy for primary growth levers
“As a founder, you should be owning the strategy for your primary growth lever. If that's product marketing sales, right? Like whatever the primary growth lever for your business is, you should not delegate that thing. I think a lot of founders are like, Hey, I…”
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Lerner: Non-founders will not take necessary risks on growth levers
“If it's the primary growth lever for your business, it is the most important piece of your business, and at the end of the day, the person you hire will not have the full company perspective that you do. They will not have the right level of skin in the game, …”
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Lerner: Performance marketing advisors cannot effectively advise virality-driven startups
“On the growth side, like if your primary lever is virality, definitely get somebody that did virality stuff, right? If they come from a performance world, they're gonna not have, they're gonna struggle to help you with the core virality stuff and vice versa, r…”
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Lerner: Startups must celebrate resource efficiency over pure metric growth
“I think this is another thing that people do wrong is they tend to celebrate offense. They tend to celebrate metrics movers. Right. In their org. And that makes people working on defensive things feel crappy because they never get celebrated. But really you ne…”
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Lerner: Building product teams focused on churn is a mistake
“People tend to build teams focused on churn, and I think that's a mistake. I don't think you want to focus teams on churn.”
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Ely Lerner: Growth hacks are dead; growth requires finding specific leverage
“I mean, honestly, the concept of growth tactics has died to death. Like, this whole idea of growth hacks, and there's a set of growth hacks that everybody can throw on to get quick wins. Growth is not about growth hacks, right? Growth is about intentionally fi…”
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Ely Lerner: Push notifications and paid marketing only work in specific niches
“Paid is oversaturated in a lot of ways. I would say, though, that they're not, these things are not dead. They're dead as broad brush tools. Paid has channel, like, has specific niches where it works well. Push notifications have specific niches where they wor…”
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Lerner: Startups must focus on one or two bets to succeed
“The whole point of strategy is to say no to most things and focus in on a small number of really high leverage things. Like you have to make that bet. When you see companies with nine company level OKRs at the top level or whatever, right? They're just trying …”
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Lerner: Incubating zero-to-one products in legacy orgs reduces success
“One of the things that I have seen myself and with companies that I advise is if you're trying to do true zero to one inside of a later stage company and like find your next horizon, trying to do it inside of the sort of legacy product product org vastly reduc…”
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Lerner: Corporate product development accelerates learning speed via controllable distribution
“In terms of speed of learning, right, I actually think it's a fantastic sort of like, as you said, accelerant to the speed of learning in a bunch of these areas because you can turn on distribution however you want overnight when you're ready to do it.”
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Lerner: Incentive alignment is the most powerful lever in business
“Incentive alignment is the most powerful lever you have in a business, definitely in a marketplace.”
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Lerner: Company advising grows the business; executive coaching develops the leader
“And so company level advising is really that, like, I'm helping you do your job at that highest level with the goal of Growing this company. Whereas coaching is, I'm helping you become a better version of yourself.”
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Lerner: Fractional executives bridge the gap before startups justify full-time hires
“There tends to be a gap Period for most startups where they are not yet big enough. It doesn't yet make sense to hire a full head of growth, head of marketing, head of product, but it's getting big enough that it's taking too much of that founder's time, or it…”
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Lerner: Match advisor hiring to playbook creation versus playbook scaling
“I think the things that matter most are one is like, did they develop the playbook or did they scale the playbook? I think you see a lot of split between somebody who scaled the playbook that was developed prior to them, or they developed the playbook from scr…”
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Lerner: Performance marketing translates globally while brand and fintech stay local
“Brand people need to know that the culture of the place that they are doing branding too. Performance works pretty similarly in a lot of different places, right? And then like maybe fintech is a good example where just like the core business models and the inf…”
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Lerner: Fractional executive pay should scale without equity cliffs
“Usually what you would do is you would look at what you would hire a full-time C-level in that position for, and then you would just scale it back by the fraction. So usually it's like two days a week or three days a week. Those tend to be the most common vers…”
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Ely Lerner: Outcome ownership drives high-functioning engineering teams
“I think that, like, the strongest lever that you can pull to really drive high-functioning engineering teams is engineering ownership of outcomes.”
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Lerner: Startups should not spend engineering resources pushing downside risk to zero
“A key aspect of defense is that there's almost always a diminishing returns curve. There's a point on that curve where you have reduced the risk of the downside to a significant amount, not to zero, because if you try, like, if you try to move the risk to zero…”
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Lerner: Consolidate defensive engineering into a dedicated core experience team
“One of the things that I've seen be really effective is when you have a core experience org that owns every piece Of the defense. All of the defenses within that org and no non-defense is in that org. That really lets them prioritize apples to apples defense a…”
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Lerner: Maturing growth loops transition from offensive bets to defensive maintenance
“Once it starts topping out, you still need to invest in it. Like you still need to be right. Like if it's a virality loop, like you can't just be like, okay, it's, we're starting to get lower returns. We're just going to ignore it from now on. It starts turnin…”
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Lerner: Defensive engineering is as critical as offensive growth for startups
“The one thing to remember here is defense is equally important to offense, if not more important, right? Like the whole point is that these are existential. If you do not do these things, you're not going to have a company to invest in offense.”
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Ely Lerner: Feature-owned engineering teams fail to drive business outcomes
“The old style was we have teams that own features, right? Which like is very nice from a, we touch this piece of the code base. Nobody else touches this piece of the code base, but isn't very good for driving business outcomes.”
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Ely Lerner: Startup offensive strategy must focus on leverage points, not solutions
“Offense should not be about the solution. Your offense is not the solution. The offense is the leverage point that you are trying to move.”
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Lerner: New user activation is the strongest lever for retention
“Generally new user activation and getting people to the place where they experience the core value of your product and then build a habit around that value is your strongest lever to retention, which is the thing that is going to impact your churn metric.”
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Ely Lerner: Startup advisors fail when pushing playbooks without contextual fit
“When you get a kind of advisor who has done a bunch of things before, and essentially their advice is do the things I did because they worked for me. That happens a lot. And what ha what the challenge is if their situation was meaningfully different from yours…”
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Lerner: Startups must cycle advisors as business problems evolve
“And as your business progresses, if you move into things that they are not as good at, you're going to pretty quickly know that you're not getting the same level of value from that relationship. And you need to start looking for somebody who is really good at …”
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Lerner: Startups should ultimately integrate growth into all product teams
“So if it is, if you are a company that is at the first stage, it may well be the right step for you to go to having a separate growth org, but you should think that your end goal is to integrate growth into everything that you're doing.”
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Ely Lerner: Retention compounds business growth by driving engagement and virality
“And again, this is back to the, like retention is king, right? Like retention stacks your business. Retention drives engagement, which drives virality. Like it's just all the things.”
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Lerner: Optimizing overall conversion without ICP tracking wastes growth resources
“One of the biggest things I see people do wrong is they see they have a conversion problem. They point a team at conversion and they look at the conversion metric overall. The problem is a bunch of those people are not ICP and they're never going to convert an…”
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Lerner: Horizontal product ICPs are defined by attributes, not personas
“Horizontal products also have an ICP. This is, I love this one. I'm going to call this out even though you didn't ask. I think it's an important one for so many people. Horizontal products have an ICP because the true ICP should be defined in terms of attribut…”
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Lerner: Early horizontal startups must focus narrowly on a specific acute problem
“So you shouldn't try to be everything to everyone. You, again, actually like when you're first starting a product, the general wisdom, and this holds true for horizontal as well, is that you should probably be pretty narrow. It's just in horizontal, you're nar…”
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Lerner: Growth leaders must vet founding team mindset before joining
“I'd say the most important things are understand that business. Like, is there opportunity Is there leverage to be had in the business? I think this is something like they're hiring you because they need to help to grow, but you want to figure out if they're a…”
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Lerner: Early startups need data agility over perfect data
“I don't think it needs to be clean and structured, but they need to be able to iterate towards the things they need to learn. And so they need to have some data and they need to have the ability to say, hey, we need to be able to measure X because X is really …”
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Lerner: Startup advising spans company-level, functional, and domain expertise
“I see kind of like three top level shapes of advising today. The first one is company level advising or founder level advising, where the perspective is across the whole company, the whole business. You're really like a partner to that founder. This is the kin…”
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Lerner: Zero-to-one product roles force leaders to own full business outcomes
“When you start out your product career or growth career working on a more mature product, it's easy to not really see the forest for the trees, right? Like you've got a lot going on and there's a lot of things already there. You're sort of a small piece. When …”