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Lawson: In corporate M&A, missing a deal is worse than a failed deal
“Well, I'll tell you the other thing that, that I think is conventional wisdom, especially at companies that do a lot of M&A like Salesforce, which is you don't worry about the deals that didn't work out. But the thing you regret is the ones you, that you shoul…”
Benioff: Every software product Salesforce sells will be agentic
“I don't think that there will be a piece of software that we sell that will not be agentic.”
Benioff: Salesforce Data Cloud and AI reached over $1B ARR
“The data cloud and AI together now is more than a billion in revenue. We talked about that on our last earnings call. It's our fastest growing Cloud product, whatever, ever, you know, in 26 years.”
O'Driscoll: Slack restricting customer data access will fail over the medium term
“I don't know if you can get away forever in a horizontal app like Salesforce with a channel like Slack denying access, the denying the customer access to their own content over the medium term. I don't think it stands.”
O'Driscoll: Dropbox lacks a significant enterprise customer base compared to incumbents
“Your right to win is predominantly in your existing customer base, and ServiceNow is a big one, and Salesforce has a big one, and brutally in the enterprise, Dropbox doesn't.”
Lemkin: Salesforce commits 20% of its code through AI
“Even Salesforce commits 20% of their code through AI.”
HubSpot aims to define mid-market software within 5 to 10 years
“We want to define a category of mid market software. And, you know, five years from now, 10 years from now, when you have guests in your podcast, I want you to ask them, hey, are you like Salesforce? Are you like HubSpot serving mid market? Or are you like Int…”
Odoo and ERP challengers will grow much faster than Salesforce and SAP
“I think same as SAP, most of the, these companies have still a good way to, I mean, you, they will continue. But other challenges like us will grow much faster.”
Dines: Salesforce and SAP Will Limit AI Agents to Own Platforms
“What's the interest of Salesforce to provide amazing connections to SAP and vice versa? No, it's not. So they will focus on building agents that work specifically for workloads that stay within their platforms.”
Benioff: Salesforce Has Never Experienced Government Coercion or Censorship
“I haven't seen it in my own company. That's why I've been so surprised that, but I don't run a social media company, so I don't really know what the government does with these big consumer platforms.”
Benioff: Salesforce Agentforce Pricing Starts at $2 Per Conversation
“Agent force is consumption pricing. So you're being charging per conversation. The starting price is about two bucks per conversation, and then it's negotiated based on volumes for customers.”
Benioff: Salesforce Projects Thousands of Agentforce Deals in Q4
“We'll do thousands of agent force deals this quarter”
Benioff: Salesforce Rehired Many Employees Laid Off Two Years Ago
“Even in the layoffs that we had, which were very dramatic in the company two years ago, we have hired a lot of those employees back into the company.”
Benioff: Salesforce Processes Over Two Trillion Enterprise Transactions Weekly
“We'll do more than two trillion enterprise transactions this week.”
Benioff: Salesforce Is Focusing Exclusively on AgentForce Over Other Products
“When I just rolled out AgentForce, you'll notice that we're not going to talk a lot about all of Salesforce's products, which are amazing. You know, on the podcast, I'm going to keep coming back to AgentForce because that's all I'm focused on right now.”
Benioff: Salesforce Will Add 1,000 to 2,000 Salespeople Short-Term
“We'll have more salespeople next year because we need to really explain to everybody exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So we will add another probably one to 2000 salespeople in the short term.”
Benioff: Salesforce Will Move Its Entire Company Onto Agentforce
“That I've moved my whole support infrastructure to the agentic platform. I will move my whole sales platform to the agentic platform as well. I'll move my whole company onto agent force for no other reason what to show my customers what is possible.”
Khachab: AI will not enable enterprises to replace Salesforce with internal tools
“I don't think so. Because, okay, like AI today, like even the best LLM won't enable you to build something like Salesforce fairly quickly. There's so much code, so much customization in there. And then plus, even if it would, then you would have to maintain it…”
Frankel: Writing off Salesforce in AI ignores their massive proprietary data advantage
“So Mark Benioff, Salesforce, you write that off at your peril, because the amount of data they have, right, they throw in these AI tools, they're doing their own stuff, right? That is, that, like, their opportunity is enormous”
Lemkin: Salesforce reported permanent slowdown to single-digit growth
“The issue is that Salesforce said we have fallen to single digit growth, and we're not coming back.”
Lemkin: Salesforce now requires 3x pipeline coverage, up from 2x historically
“Salesforce also just said that now they need three X pipeline coverage versus two X historically. So in other words, if they want to close a billion dollars, they used to need two billion dollars of deal in flight. Now they need three because it's just 50% har…”
Ryan: Salesforce will incorporate AI and defend market share from startups
“Salesforce is going to incorporate that in and, you know, a large company with a thousand person Salesforce is not going to easily switch off. To a startup company. And so I have confidence that Salesforce will incorporate AI into their product. Maybe it's six…”
Cassidy: Reps at Salesforce and Oracle Never Need to Prove Problem Validity
“There's no comps there for like Salesforce or Oracle or Adobe or whatever, right? You don't ever have to make that kind of case there ever.”
Wagner: Replacing Salesforce with a new CRM is a fool's errand
“I'd rather have been doing that in sales tech than, oh, here's a better CRM, you know, unplug Salesforce and plug in my CRM. You know, like to me, that's a fool's errand. You know, that's not happening.”
Quattrone: Salesforce submitted higher unsolicited bids during LinkedIn's exclusivity window with Microsoft
“So they went into like a 30 day exclusivity to try to get to definitive agreement. And during that period, Salesforce lobbed in Several offers that were higher. And that meant that towards the end of that period, we had to inform Microsoft, Hey, your deal is n…”
Quattrone: Microsoft and Salesforce submitted nearly identical bids at every stage for LinkedIn
“With LinkedIn, we had interest from several parties, but it really kind of came down to Microsoft and Salesforce. And I've never seen companies bid privately and come up with such close prices on every stage Like, 151 151 162 163. It was very, very close, and …”
HubSpot's CRM hit $700M revenue and threatens Salesforce
“And then the fact that now they're doing seven hundred million, their CRM product. There's CRM, which is the first real threat in some, to at least to the low end of Salesforce we've ever seen.”
Seibert: OpenAI won't build direct Notion or Salesforce competitors
“I would doubt if opening eye goes and builds like an ocean competitor or an HR or Salesforce competitor or so on, they probably want to stay at the more generic level”
Benioff: Salesforce is San Francisco's largest philanthropist, donating $250M+
“Salesforce is now San Francisco's largest philanthropist. And we've given more than a hundred million dollars to the children's hospital and more than a hundred and fifty million dollars to the public schools.”
Salesforce subleased 250,000 square feet in SF to a year-old startup
“We just subleased a quarter million square feet of space in one of our buildings, the former Slack headquarters. To a company that didn't exist a year ago”
Benioff: Salesforce has become the number one enterprise AI platform
“And that's kind of how we became the number one enterprise AI today.”
Howie Liu: Software Companies Under $1B Revenue Are Still Upstarts
“I think any company sub one billion in revenue is, is is an upstart compared to the enterprise type, you know, whether you're Salesforce or service now, or obviously you know, the big thing companies, we're just still operating at a much smaller, leaner scale …”
Stebbings: Young founders make big-tech logo hires out of personal insecurity
“The most common I see with young founders is actually an insecurity in themselves of their lack of Experience, which leads to what you said earlier, which was the logo higher. They look for the Salesforce logo because they're aware that they don't have that ex…”
Salesforce Has Become a Backend Database Rather Than a UX Layer
“Salesforce to me feels like it's an increasingly like a database, like a store and not where the UX happens”
Fillmann: Teaming Two Sales Alphas Together Will Crash and Burn
“I think for me I'd say the biggest mistake I've made was trying to team people together that were both alphas. And like, I think being an alpha in sales is really, really good. You want the natural leader, but if they do it at the expense of other people and t…”
Fillmann: Prioritize Potential Over Experience, Except for Mature Enterprise Accounts
“It's always hypo one experience to the, there's always an exception to that though. I think when you have like a big mature customer and a big brand with a lot of visibility, You'll always have to take experience first. You don't want someone learning on the j…”
Fillmann: Founders Should Hire Sales Reps Individually, Not in Competing Pairs
“If you want the environment where people perform at their best, you need safety. If you want safety, they have to know that you're trusting them, that you've got their back. And if you have two different people kind of competing in the same environment, I don'…”
Cohen: Salesforce and SAP revenues are currently declining, not growing
“If I look at the numbers, I think both Salesforce and SAP actually specifically now are not growing and in fact declining, right?”
Logan Bartlett initially expected Braze to be acquired for $300M-$400M
“At the time I was convinced that the most likely outcome was that it was going to be a 300 or four hundred million dollar acquisition by sales or Adobe or someone like that. And so I felt like I had to be really disciplined on the entry price because it just s…”
Hiring big-tech sales veterans is often a mistake for early startups
“Some founders get, you know, really, really star eyed around, Oh, they were at Salesforce for 15 years. There's such a great fit for my 40 employee startup to come and build sales or come and be the first rep. And I'm not saying that they couldn't be, but gene…”
Kurtz predicts CrowdStrike will mirror Salesforce's platform and revenue trajectory
“I think the next five years probably look a lot like, you know, Salesforce trajectory where you continue to build out your platform, you continue to scale your revenue, your annual recurring revenue, additional geographic expansion.”
CrowdStrike was the third fastest-growing enterprise software company to IPO
“I think we were the third fastest growth company to ever IPO behind like Zoom and Salesforce.”
Grady: Early SaaS was a business model shift, not a UX revolution
“If you look at the last decade or so of software, the transition has been from on-premise to SaaS or on-premise to cloud, and that's been a wonderfully impactful transition, but at a very fundamental level, it's been a transition in the business model, not a t…”
Reyes: Widely disliked enterprise software is durable because of underlying systems of record
“I think that the biggest thing is when people say, I hate that software and everyone buys it, that's probably a pretty good business, because they're not buying the software, they're buying what's underneath of it, and that to me is actually much more durable …”
Fireworks hired former Salesforce president George Hu
“Lin just hired George Hu. He was the former president of Salesforce.”
Mignano: Incumbent tech companies will constrain employee token spend budgets
“There's too many employees at a Salesforce or I don't know, a Microsoft such that every employee can just have an unlimited token spend budget. So I think we're going to see a lot of those companies start to constrain their spends.”