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O'Driscoll: OpenAI misses next year's revenue target by 40% if growth matches Google
“If all OpenAI is, Is just as good as Google, then it's going to miss its number next year by about 40%.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 47:06 Is DPI The Only Thing That Matters? with Sam Lessin, Jason Lemkin & Rory O’Driscoll · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Atallah: Google's Jeff Dean is starting an AI agent lab
“Jeff Dean is starting an agent lab right now from Google.”
Alex Atallah Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 29:27 OpenRouter CEO: Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating the US | Why Enterprises Fear OpenAI & Anthropic
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Omer Shai says most relevant global web traffic remains on Google
“And again, in general, when you are looking at most of the traffic, the relevant traffic in the world, it's still on Google.”
Omer Shai Jan 31, 2026 ▶ 31:25 20Growth: How Wix Built a $100M Marketing Machine | Why LTV is BS and Why Time Return On Investment is the Most Important Metric | How to 10x Your Growth: What is the Next Great Channel with Omer Shai, CMO @ Wix
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O'Driscoll: Disney issued a cease-and-desist letter to Google over IP usage
“They sent a cease and desist letter to Google Because for unlicensed use of the content.”
Rory O'Driscoll Dec 18, 2025 ▶ 12:09 Will Cursor Kill Figma? Lightspeed Raises $9B & OpenAI’s $1B from Disney & #1 App in App Store · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Frosst: All creators of the Transformer architecture eventually left Google
“It is interesting that all the people who worked on the transformer left To continue to work on the transformer.”
Nick Frosst Sep 1, 2025 ▶ 3:12 Cohere Founder, Nick Frosst: How To Compete with OpenAI & Anthropic, and Sam Altman’s AI Disservice · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Villig: Google heavily subsidizes Waymo rides to mask high operational costs
“Yeah, but there's a difference between price and cost. Google is one of the wealthiest companies on the planet. They can keep on subsidizing millions of rights for a long time. That doesn't mean the cost structure is there.”
Markus Villig Nov 13, 2024 ▶ 1:13:58 Markus Villig, Founder @Bolt: The Most Insane Story in Startups & The Future of Self-Driving| E1225 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Kant: Poolside, OpenAI, and Anthropic will rival Big Tech in AI
“What I would like to see and what I think is going to happen is that it's not just Google, Amazon, and Microsoft. It's going to be, you know, an open eye, an anthropic, a poolside, and a set of companies who are able to get that massive escape velocity needed …”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 53:29 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Kant: Google relies on Broadcom for TPUs while Amazon works with fabs
“Because while Google has to work with Broadcom to be able to bring TPUs into the world, Amazon is working with the fabs directly.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 20:13 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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ChatGPT's Release Forced Google Onto Red Alert After Delaying Transformers
“Google Brain invents the kind of transformer and publishes it, and it's kind of bouncing around as kind of a research project, and it takes OpenAI developing it, scaling it, and releasing it as ChatGPT for Google to go on red alert and go, oh my god, we should…”
Reid Hoffman Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 32:02 Reid Hoffman: The Future of TikTok and The Inflection AI Deal | E1163 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Zhang: OpenAI will aggressively compete with Google in web search
“They just hired the search leader from Google. Like, they are gonna go after that space, which is, like, the most lucrative space, and also a space that, you know, should be innovated on.”
Jiaona Zhang May 17, 2024 ▶ 56:28 Jiaona Zhang: Why All Product Teams Should Have a Scorecard & How to Use It | E1154 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Socher: Google Earns $500 Million Daily From Main Search Ads
“They make five hundred million dollars a day with privacy invading advertisements on that page.”
Richard Socher Aug 18, 2023 ▶ 40:30 Richard Socher: The 3 Biggest Barriers to Building AGI; AI Startups vs Incumbents | E1050 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Mostaque: AI-synthesized search results will destroy digital media ad revenue
“I think he is right to be worried. Like, again, you look at Google's announcements yesterday, they were talking about this day after Palm Two, You suddenly look at the new Google page where they've got the language model, and it's just text, and where are the …”
Emad Mostaque May 17, 2023 ▶ 29:56 Emad Mostaque: These 5 Companies Will Win the AI War; Why We Need National Data Sets | E1015 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Jordan: TikTok Buys Users at Scale Unlike Early Google or Facebook
“That's not a categorical rule, because TikTok buys users at monstrous scale. But, you know, Google really didn't buy many users, Facebook didn't buy many users, you know, tick, tick, tick, tick.”
Jeff Jordan Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 9:28 The Ultimate Guide for Building a Two-Sided Marketplace | a16z's Jeff Jordan · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Emil Michael: Uber's acquisition of Otto destroyed its relationship with Google
“I'd say that the deal that Was under my watch. I didn't like it at the time, but I, you know, it got done was Uber acquiring auto, which was the autonomous car division that that gets started out of Google guys. It was, and I didn't like it for different reaso…”
Emil Michael Oct 25, 2022 ▶ 28:53 Emil Michael: How I Negotiated the $4B Uber-China Deal, Why DoorDash Caught Up to Uber | 20VC #941 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Every digital ad platform update makes user acquisition more expensive
“There's never been a single update in digital advertising that has made buying cheaper. The advertising algorithms on these major platforms like Facebook and Google are getting hyper-efficient, and every update just makes them more expensive.”
Josh Buckley Nov 25, 2019 ▶ 19:10 20VC: Why The Best Entrepreneurs Are Cockroaches, What Everyone Underestimates About Customer Acquisition & What You Don't But Need To Know About Payback Periods with Josh Buckley, Founder & Chairman @ Mino Games
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Loftus: Big Tech Buyer Softening Has Kept Startup Acquisition Prices Moderate
“So I haven't seen a ton of price increase, but I do think that's because in my view, even though you've seen new entrants into the market, There's been softening at the other end of the market from the Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon end.”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 10:10 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
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O'Driscoll: Apple pays Google $1B for Gemini while receiving $20B for search
“I think, to some extent, they're giving in the sense that they're paying Google a billion dollars to use their model as the default model, but reminder, Google pays them, I think, 12 or 20, I used to know the number, twenty billion dollars to be the default se…”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 21:46 SpaceX Launches Largest Ever IPO | OpenAI Files to Go Public | Uber Cuts 23% of HR · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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O'Driscoll: Anthropic deal makes up 40% of Google's future backlog
“I think now the anthropic rev commit is about 40% of Google's total future backlog.”
Rory O'Driscoll May 14, 2026 ▶ 13:19 Anthropic Buys Compute From Elon & Commits $200BN to Google | Cerebras IPO | Ramp Raises at $40BN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Stebbings: Anthropic committed $200B to Google Cloud over five years
“They also did a deal committing two hundred billion to Google over, I believe it was a five-year period.”
Harry Stebbings May 14, 2026 ▶ 12:22 Anthropic Buys Compute From Elon & Commits $200BN to Google | Cerebras IPO | Ramp Raises at $40BN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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O'Driscoll: Serving free ChatGPT users costs more than Google or Facebook
“And the cost to serve a free ChatGPT customer is higher than either Facebook or Google.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 45:21 Elon Musk vs Sam Altman | The Implosion of Thinking Machines | Can VC Survive Public Pricing? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Cognition learned of Windsurf's Google deal at the same time as the public
“We found out, honestly, on Friday, the same time everyone else did, that all of this was happening, and that this was the split, and that it was Google”
Scott Wu Jul 18, 2025 ▶ 1:20 Cognition CEO Scott Wu on Acquiring Windsurf: The Process, The Deal, The Rationale · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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O'Driscoll: Sundar Pichai won't leave Google, but won't solve AI threat
“So my guess is by far the prior, the most likely outcome is not leave, just continue to manage what you've got reasonably well without ever solving the existential problem.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 12, 2025 ▶ 1:13:22 Elon’s Empire: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink After the Storm & Anduril’s $2.6BN Power Move · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Uber manually onboarded its first million drivers without major digital ad spend
“For probably the first million drivers that we onboarded, a lot of our processes were manual, right? So we weren't doing a lot of like paid spend on Facebook. We were doing a little bit on Craigslist. We weren't doing a ton on Google, but it was really the ope…”
Scott Gorlick Aug 30, 2024 ▶ 7:19 Scott Gorlick: How Uber Acquired 1M Drivers & The Uber’s Expansion Playbook | E1196 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Cahn: The $250B Cloud Infrastructure Market Equals the Entire SaaS Sector
“This cloud business today is a two hundred and fifty billion dollar business. So the cloud business today is the same size as the SaaS sector. That's the business that Azure, Google and AWS control is the same size as the entire SaaS sector.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 11:47 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Levie: AI context windows grew 500x in 18 months
“The token context window was more or less, I think, 4000 tokens. So you kind of give it like a blog post to analyze just in the past, you know, week at Google IO Sundar announced a two million token window model or version of Gemini. So think about that. That'…”
Aaron Levie May 22, 2024 ▶ 8:00 Aaron Levie: How the Business Model of SaaS Changes Forever & Startups vs Incumbents:Who Wins?|E1155 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Söderström: Spotify will not build general frontier AI models to compete
“So that's why, you know, there's no point in trying to compete with them for us because we don't even have the same goal. So we're trying to build exactly the things that we don't think they will build. And we would buy the things that they will build or someo…”
Gustav Söderström Dec 20, 2023 ▶ 27:17 Roundtable #7: Spotify, Adobe and Linkedin on How AI Changes The Future of Product & Design | E1097 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Socher: Google generates $500M per day from search advertisements
“They make five hundred million dollars a day With privacy invading advertisements on that page.”
Richard Socher Nov 24, 2023 ▶ 28:19 The Ultimate AI Roundtable: What Happens Now in AI, Why Google are Vulnerable | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Mostaque: Google's Med-PaLM 2 AI model exceeds doctor performance levels
“Now we have MedPOM-II that exceeds doctor levels. So that was a Google announcement yesterday.”
Emad Mostaque May 17, 2023 ▶ 5:08 Emad Mostaque: These 5 Companies Will Win the AI War; Why We Need National Data Sets | E1015 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Mostaque: Google will spend $20 billion annually on AI
“Google will spend twenty billion dollars a year on AI.”
Emad Mostaque May 17, 2023 ▶ 46:20 Emad Mostaque: These 5 Companies Will Win the AI War; Why We Need National Data Sets | E1015 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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LeCun: All of OpenAI and the AI world runs on PyTorch
“ChatGPT was developed on PyTorch. Okay. All OpenAI runs on PyTorch. The entire world, in fact, runs on PyTorch, except Google, because they have their own thing, right?”
Yann LeCun May 15, 2023 ▶ 25:39 Yann LeCun: Meta’s New AI Model LLaMA; Why Elon is Wrong about AI; Open-source AI Models | E1014 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Duggal: Larry Page reviewed every Google candidate packet, including SAT scores
“Google was famous for the fact that Larry literally looked at every hiring packet, including resume. I, what, 12 years after graduating college had to provide my SAT scores to Google. I had to go find them. I had to provide my college transcript, which everyon…”
Jag Duggal Mar 29, 2023 ▶ 20:25 Jag Duggal: How We Scaled Nubank to 80M Users; Google's Brutal Hiring Practices | E995 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Duggal: Google's CS degree rule barred Kevin Systrom from PM roles
“Because of that computer science requirement to be a product manager, people like Kevin Systrom weren't allowed to be product managers at Google, right?”
Jag Duggal Mar 29, 2023 ▶ 21:06 Jag Duggal: How We Scaled Nubank to 80M Users; Google's Brutal Hiring Practices | E995 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Lieb: I was asked to leave my Google team twice
“I didn't get fired from Google. I did get asked to leave the team twice.”
David Lieb Sep 21, 2022 ▶ 1:03:35 David Lieb: How I Founded Google Photos & Bump; Why I Left Google | 20VC #927 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Wang: Google research shows exponential dataset scaling yields continuous model gains
“Google sort of published a bunch of these papers, which showed that each time you can X the size of your data set, you're going to keep getting bang out of your buck in terms of the Performance of your model. So it's not just that it is true that like for each…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 12:19 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
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Google paid $1.1 billion for pre-revenue Waze and succeeded
“For example, if you look at a ways where we spent 1.1 billion dollars to buy them, that's been a tremendously successful deal for us. But at the time they had almost no revenue.”
Dave Sobota Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 7:52 20VC: So You Want To Be Acquired? Instacart VP of Corp Dev, Dave Sobota on His Biggest Lessons From 10 Years in Google's M&A Team Working on The Acquisitions of Motorola, Waze & Android
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Waze signed an LOI with another acquirer before Google bought them
“Waze had actually signed a letter of intent with another acquirer when we got involved. One of our main competitors was a Waze stockholder and wasn't too keen on us buying them.”
Dave Sobota Apr 15, 2019 ▶ 22:24 20VC: So You Want To Be Acquired? Instacart VP of Corp Dev, Dave Sobota on His Biggest Lessons From 10 Years in Google's M&A Team Working on The Acquisitions of Motorola, Waze & Android
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Elad Gil: Google Spent Hundreds of Millions Buying Firefox Homepage and Toolbars
“Google was spending hundreds of millions of dollars on To acquire customers via things like toolbar distribution. They bought the homepage of Firefox for many years. They basically did whatever they could to push distribution as hard as possible.”
Elad Gil Jul 17, 2018 ▶ 30:31 20VC: Elad Gil's High Growth Handbook on The Commonalities of The Truly Great CEOs, How To Hire The Very Best Execs, Why Cash is A Defensible Moat Today & The Pros and Cons of M&A and IPOs
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Taussig: Google and Facebook capture ~90% of recent ad growth
“Something like 89 or 90% of growth in advertising dollars In the last year or so was inside of Google and Facebook.”
Alex Taussig Mar 12, 2018 ▶ 14:34 20VC: Lightspeed's Alex Taussig on VC Risk Mentality, The Current State of Retail & The Mechanics of Cash Flow
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Ben Lerer: Legacy retail and media will heavily acquire DTC startups
“The last few weeks in retail, I mean, just look at the jet and dollar shave acquisitions. You're seeing, these are the first dominoes in what will be a bunch of dominoes falling. I believe in consolidation where the traditional guys in retail, the traditional …”
Ben Lerer Sep 5, 2016 ▶ 19:22 20VC: Lerer Hippeau's Ben Lerer on 'Investing With Imagination', Strategies To Avoid Fomo & Develop Pattern Recognition As An Investor and Why We Have Seen The Rise of Direct To Consumer Business & Will This Continue With Further M&A
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NYC tech ecosystem lacks a mega-scale anchor company
“The negative of what's happened here in the past seven years is you haven't seen the true emergence of a destination company, right? We have incredible companies that are building incredible foundations here. Some have went, went public already. Some will go p…”
David Tisch Jan 11, 2016 ▶ 5:03 20 VC: David Tisch @ Box Group on The Future of Consumer Mobile, Developing Pattern Recognition and FOMO
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Angelopoulos: Google's Gemma sits on the performance-versus-cost Pareto curve
“Gemma, by the way, is pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you look at arena, you'll see the, on the Pareto curves of like performance versus cost. Gemma's on there.”
Anastasios Angelopoulos Aug 2, 2026 ▶ 24:37 Arena CEO: There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model & Data is a Trillion Dollar Market
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O'Driscoll: Only Nvidia and Google outperformed the S&P in last 18 months
“Over the last 18 months since 2025, only two of the Mag seven have outperformed the S&P. It's NVIDIA and Google”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 25, 2026 ▶ 12:32 DeepSeek Raises at $50B | The Rise of Open Source vs OpenAI & Anthropic | OpenAI Builds Own Chip · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Google will launch a coding agent to compete with Codex
“Google doesn't yet have a product in this category, but I'm sure they're going to come after that.”
Aravind Srinivas Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 8:22 Perplexity CEO: Micron Will Be More Valuable Than Meta & How Export Controls Helped Not Hurt China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Green: Apple spends far less on AI CapEx than tech peers
“And, you know, like Apple's spending very little right now, you know, and those other three or four companies are spending insane amounts of money.”
Mitchell Green Mar 7, 2026 ▶ 8:41 Mitchell Green: Why 50% of VCs Should Not Exist · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Stebbings: Google owns 14% of Anthropic
“Google owns 14% of Anthropic.”
Harry Stebbings Oct 30, 2025 ▶ 1:18:58 OpenAI Restructuring: Who Wins and Who Loses & Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Lemkin: Google stakeholders will do almost anything to keep CEO Sundar Pichai
“So I suspect it's similar at Google, right? I suspect none of the large stakeholders want him to go no matter what, and they will do almost anything to keep him.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 12, 2025 ▶ 1:12:06 Elon’s Empire: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink After the Storm & Anduril’s $2.6BN Power Move · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Ramaswamy: Google Succeeded Early Because AOL and Yahoo Neglected Search
“Yahoo and AOL. Early on. Those were the entry points. AOL didn't know how to do a search. Yahoo didn't think search was important.”
Sridhar Ramaswamy Feb 10, 2025 ▶ 48:16 Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO @Snowflake: Deepseek is Not a Threat to OpenAI & OpenAI Beats Anthropic|E1258 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Ross: Google announced first zero-day exploit found by an LLM
“Google just announced recently the first zero day exploit found by an LLM that was previously unknown.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 54:45 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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