startup valuation

also referred to as: startup valuations

15 statements across 15 episodes · 2 bullish · 10 bearish · 15 people on the record · first statement Apr 30, 2015 by Nicolas Michaelsen · across every show →

Everything said about startup valuation, oldest first

Apr 30, 2015 bullish
Assertion Supported
Y Combinator participation boosts startup valuations by 2x to 3x
“While we were going through, there was a number that was floating around, like it's like two to three X of the standard valuation. So it definitely, it has a huge impact on your valuation because also like everybody has been pre-vetted so rigorously.”
Nicolas Michaelsen Apr 30, 2015 ▶ 13:53 20 VC 032: Inside Y Combinator with Nicolas Michaelsen, Founder @ AirHelp
Sep 16, 2015 negative
Insight
High entry valuations prevent venture returns from covering startup failures
“Most startups do fail, and you need to make sure that the startups that you do succeed with actually help to cover all the losses that you make otherwise, and if you invest at way too high a price, you're not going to cover all the other failures that you have…”
Fabrice Grinda Sep 16, 2015 ▶ 7:50 20 VC 072: Super Angel, Fabrice Grinda: The Future of Startup Investing
Oct 14, 2015 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rojas: Startup valuations at the seed stage have begun to rationalize
“I think that they've actually started to rationalize a little bit more.”
Peter Rojas Oct 14, 2015 ▶ 13:14 20 VC 079: BETAWORKS WEEK: East vs West Coast Investing with Peter Rojas, EIR @ Betaworks, Co-Founder @ Weblogs & Engadget
Jun 14, 2017 negative
Opinion
Chasing high valuations is highly detrimental to young founders
“Go get a high valuation. I think it's one of the most detrimental things that happens for these young entrepreneurs. They think it's a game. And the answer is not about just because you can get away with it. You know, you should go get a high valuation. You sh…”
Tony Conrad Jun 14, 2017 ▶ 21:20 20VC: Tony Conrad on Straddling The Role Of Founder & Investor, What True Founder/Product Fit Looks Like & The Dangers of Party Rounds
Jul 6, 2018 negative
Insight
Raising too much money at high valuations is impossible to fix
“There was one mistake that was really basically impossible to fix, and it was raising too much money at too high of a valuation”
Joe Fernandez Jul 6, 2018 ▶ 5:49 20VC: Why Serial Entrepreneurship is Overrated, Why You Will Get Fired If You Listen To Your Board & How To Construct Investor Update Emails The Right Way with Joe Fernandez, Founder & CEO @ Joymode
Oct 7, 2019 bearish
Prediction Held up
Fein: The tech boom and inflated startup valuations will inevitably drop
“That trend is not going to last forever. This boom economy is not going to last forever. Everything's cyclical. I've worked through two recessions so far, and you know, it's going to come back down.”
John Fein Oct 7, 2019 ▶ 24:45 20VC: The Ultimate Episode For Emerging Managers: How To Determine How Big A Fund To Raise, What Is The Right Closing Strategy With LPs & Why We Will Not See The Eradication of Pre-Seed with John Fein, Founder & Managing Partner @ Firebrand Ventures
Oct 18, 2019
Insight
Bahat: Startup valuation is primarily a mathematical function of VC fund size
“The way it works is your fund has a strategy and you say to yourself, do I want to invest in this company? And if I want to invest in this company, then I have a check size. And the check size is usually determined by the fund size, because again, back to our …”
Roy Bahat Oct 18, 2019 ▶ 20:02 20VC Exclusive: Roy Bahat on Bloomberg Beta's New Fund, The Truth About Valuation That Very Few VCs Will Tell You & Why Founders of Venture Backed Startups Make The Best Angels
Nov 8, 2019 bearish
Opinion
Denehy: Excessive startup valuations will trap tech companies
“Lower valuations. Just think a lot of companies are getting themselves into situations that are going to be very hard to get out of. So I think hip checking the valuations probably wouldn't hurt.”
Ryan Denehy Nov 8, 2019 ▶ 32:04 20VC: Why Pre-Product Market Fit Is About Systems Design Not Engineering, The Right Way For Leaders To Approach Wartime Leadership Today & A Guide To Recruitment Forward Planning with Ryan Denehy, Founder & CEO @ Electric
Apr 20, 2020 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Unrealistic valuation expectations will drive startup failures
“A lot of companies won't succeed because people hold on artificially to prices that are too high.”
Mark Suster Apr 20, 2020 ▶ 19:53 20VC: Upfront's Mark Suster on COVID Redefining What A Great Company Looks Like and What Valuations Look Like, Why Pay-To-Play Is Back On The Table & Why We Will See The Death of Party Rounds
Feb 11, 2022 bearish
Prediction Partly held up
Levie: Venture market will see gradual correction, not a bubble burst
“We will see a correction. I just don't believe it's going to be a sudden correction that will feel like a sort of bubble burst. I think it'll be, you know, more pressure for keeping valuations in some reasonable band that still, compared to 15 years ago, will …”
Aaron Levie Feb 11, 2022 ▶ 23:29 20VC: Box's Aaron Levie on Why Founders Cannot Hedge Their Bets, The 2 Categories of Wrong Decision and How To Avoid Them & The Biggest Dangers of Being Over-Funded as a Startup
Jun 26, 2023 negative
Insight
Babayigit: Startup Valuations Reflect Market FOMO Rather Than Cash Flows
“Valuation to me can only be useful if it's a meaningful heuristic For future potential cash flows, right? But valuations now are a measure of what that markets FOMO is for that business.”
Akin Babayigit Jun 26, 2023 ▶ 1:04:26 Akin Babayigit: How Tripledot Studios Became #1 Fastest-Growing Company in Europe | E1030 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Seibert: Startup valuations will crash dramatically with major layoffs in Q1-Q2
“A lot of valuations will still crash from here dramatically. And there's probably going to be huge layoffs going into Q one, Q two as well.”
Jeff Seibert Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 50:29 Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 22, 2024 neutral
Insight
Fisher: Inflated exit-level valuations are far worse than down rounds
“Down rounds are not problematic. Much more problematic, again, are valuations that that are essentially in exit territory, or far in excess of exit territory. It's really hard to recover from that.”
Adam Fisher Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 45:32 Adam Fisher: Why Small Markets are Better Than Big Markets | E1106 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 8, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Grady: Startups see 4x higher valuations in rounds immediately following Sequoia
“But if you look at the, if you look at the data, it's actually not signaling risk, it's signaling advantage. And it's signaling advantage in the sense that the average valuation for the round that you raise after your Sequoia round. So if you raise a seed from…”
Pat Grady Jul 8, 2024 ▶ 56:12 Pat Grady: Sequoia Partner on Investing Lessons from Doug Leone, Roelof Botha and Alfred Lin | E1174 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 30, 2024 negative
Insight
Saarinen: Maximizing startup valuation is dangerous and leads to demotivating down rounds
“So I'm not trying to aim, like get the highest valuation possible. I think it's dangerous and what we've seen in the past couple of years that it can lead to down rounds and those are really annoying or unmotivating to people.”
Karri Saarinen Oct 30, 2024 ▶ 23:29 Karri Saarinen: How to Grow Capital Efficiently in a World of BS Growth | E1221 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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