Square

includes Square Capital, Square Wallet, Square Cash, Square Financial Services

41 statements across 29 episodes · 21 bullish · 6 bearish · 26 people on the record · first statement Nov 23, 2015 by Suranga Chandratilake · said 34 times in 20 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about Square, oldest first

Nov 23, 2015 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Twitter and Square have no operational or business conflicts
“The good news is the companies are not conflicting in any way, so there's no chance of him having some kind of awkward situation where he feels he's on the fence because he sort of has two different companies to deliver value to.”
Suranga Chandratilake Nov 23, 2015 ▶ 7:46 20 VC 090: Balderton Capital's General Partner, Suranga Chandratillake on What It Takes To Be A Great CEO
Dec 11, 2015 negative
Opinion
Hoover doubts a single person can run Twitter and Square simultaneously
“I don't know how he can do it. I don't know. I just don't know how anyone can run two companies, especially two massive prominent companies as a single person.”
Ryan Hoover Dec 11, 2015 ▶ 20:27 20 VC FF 026: Ryan Hoover, Founder @ ProductHunt on Relationship Building, Habit Forming and The Vision for ProductHunt
Jan 18, 2017 negative
Disclosure
Square Wallet failed because Square backed it too long without 10x value
“We tried Square Wallet. It was unsuccessful. We backed it for too long. We kept it going for too long. I think there wasn't enough focus on creating the same kind of 10 X value proposition in that product that Square's core product originally had.”
Rishi Garg Jan 18, 2017 ▶ 25:24 20VC: How To Test The Strength Of Co-Founder Relations, The Dangers Of Raising A Large Series A & Why The Biggest Challenge For Consumer Companies Is Finding The Second Big Hit with Rishi Garg, Partner @ Mayfield Fund
May 12, 2017 negative
Insight
Finkelstein: Bundling point solutions for retail creates an inefficient 'Frankenstein' system
“If you don't use Shopify and you don't want to use our platform to sell in all these different places, you can bundle up a bunch of different single point solutions. You can do just e-commerce plus just point of sale plus, you know, maybe a card reader from li…”
Harley Finkelstein May 12, 2017 ▶ 13:21 20VC: Building Shopify From $5m To IPO, Why The Future Of Retail Is Not Online vs Offline & Why Law School Is Like Finishing School For Entrepreneurs with Harley Finkelstein, COO @ Shopify
May 31, 2017
Assertion Partly supported
Ascher: Jack Dorsey's Square Series A pitch listed 75 company risks
“I remember seeing Jack Dorsey's pitch for squares series a, and he literally started with like, these are 75 things that could kill this company in the short term.”
Brian Ascher May 31, 2017 ▶ 12:24 20VC: How Both Founders & GPs Should Construct Their Pitch, Why VCs Are Eternal Optimists & What Makes The Best Post-Investment VC/Founder Relationship with Brian Ascher, Partner @ Venrock
Nov 20, 2017
Disclosure
Mark Pincus missed investing in Square because he thought he was too busy
“I don't know that it was offered to me, but Square, when Jack Dorsey was walking out in the hallways at a conference with a dongle, and I thought I was too busy.”
Mark Pincus Nov 20, 2017 ▶ 18:41 20VC: Zynga's Mark Pincus on When To Ride Your Winners and Cut Your Losers, Why People With "Broken Resumes" Make The Best Hires & The 2 Biggest Lies Told In Silicon Valley By Founders and VCs
Mar 26, 2018 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Loftus: Major tech corp dev teams are perpetually overwhelmed by deal flow
“Corporate development teams across the Silicon Valley, including at Facebook and Google, are small compared to the opportunity set that they're evaluating. There's just so many companies out there all the time to evaluate, and if you're even at Square, you kno…”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 11:17 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
Mar 26, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
Loftus: Square deploys 6 to 10 people in M&A deal processes
“I'm going to roll out, even at a small company in a square, somewhere between six and 10 people who are going to be involved in a deal process, and they're all going to be asking the CEO founder for stuff.”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 17:06 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
Mar 26, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Loftus: Pre-term sheet Silicon Valley M&A deals have under 50% close rate
“By and large, and this isn't necessarily true for Square, but across Silicon Valley, once that term sheet is signed, that's a pretty high outcome rate. I wouldn't want to guess a percentage, but those deals usually close, but before you have a term sheet, befo…”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 20:36 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
Mar 26, 2018
Insight
Loftus: Tech M&A Valuations Cannot Rely on Standard Profit Models
“Pricing tech companies in particular is incredibly difficult, especially I've spent most of my career in consumer internet. You're buying a lot of companies where you're looking at talent and technology are the main drivers, and so you can't sort of build a mo…”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 9:19 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
Mar 26, 2018
Insight
Loftus: Active acquirers should review M&A outcomes two to four times yearly
“I think the important thing is to have a systematic check back, especially if you're doing a significant amount of M&A to say, you know, somewhere between two and four times a year, we're all sitting down and we're going over the metrics on outcome for each de…”
James Loftus Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 22:39 20VC: How Great VCs Handle Themselves In An M&A Process, Why M&A Has Become The Primary Method of Exit & How The Best M&A Teams Operationalise Their Process with James Loftus, Corporate Development Lead @ Square
Jul 20, 2018 positive
Disclosure
Lanman invested in Square without understanding the payments industry
“I mean, my first one was square and I had looked into payments a bit for Microsoft because, you know, we had so much cash in the balance sheet that one of the things we could have done was become a bank. And we could have gone after digital currencies and stuf…”
Fritz Lanman Jul 20, 2018 ▶ 17:42 20VC: ClassPass CEO Fritz Lanman on Betting His Career Facebook Would Be A $10Bn Company, Lessons From Travis and Uber on Scaling A Global Marketplace & Whether Growth and Capital Efficiency Are Mutually Exclusive
Jan 28, 2019 positive
Disclosure
First Round flexed on valuation to back Square at $40M pre-money
“So when Jack was starting square and we met with him, he said, well, you know, if you thought Twitter was expensive, this is going to be even more expensive. And his first round was at a 40 pre and we learned our lesson and we were fortunate enough to be the S…”
Josh Kopelman Jan 28, 2019 ▶ 10:13 20VC: First Round's Josh Kopelman on Why Price Is Both An Art and A Science, Why Ownership Must Be Built on First Check and The Negative Consequences of Attribution in Venture
Jan 13, 2020 positive
Disclosure
Kaul: Khosla's biggest wins came from regulated sectors like healthcare and food
“Square is in the banking industry. Gardent and Oscar have been in the healthcare industry. Impossible Foods is in the food industry. These are, you know, very, very regulated markets, and they've been some of our biggest wins.”
Samir Kaul Jan 13, 2020 ▶ 25:31 20VC: Khosla Ventures Founding Partner, Samir Kaul on Why Pro Rata Is A Cop Out, Why He Likes Technical Risk and Does Not Take Market Risk & How To Approach Time Allocation Across The Portfolio In Venture
Jan 13, 2020
Disclosure
Khosla Ventures invested in Square's Series A at a $30M valuation
“You know, I think when we invested in the Series A of Square, I think it was around a thirty million dollar valuation. It was Jack and Jim in a PowerPoint.”
Samir Kaul Jan 13, 2020 ▶ 14:33 20VC: Khosla Ventures Founding Partner, Samir Kaul on Why Pro Rata Is A Cop Out, Why He Likes Technical Risk and Does Not Take Market Risk & How To Approach Time Allocation Across The Portfolio In Venture
Feb 24, 2020 neutral
Disclosure
Khosla: Square was just a hardware dongle when Khosla Ventures invested
“Take something like Square. What it is today wasn't part of the plan when we originally invested. It was a hardware dongle.”
Vinod Khosla Feb 24, 2020 ▶ 12:22 20VC: Vinod Khosla on What Venture Assistance Really Means, Why Many VCs Are Not Qualified To Advise Founders & Why Startups Can Innovate So Much Faster Than Incumbents
Mar 13, 2020 bullish
Assertion Supported
Hefetz: Square Capital Is a Multi-Billion Dollar Business Within Square
“Today, Square Capital is probably a multi-billion dollar business within Square itself.”
Adena Hefets Mar 13, 2020 ▶ 4:19 20VC: 3 Addictions Of Early-Stage Startup Founders, How Founders Should Strategically Think Through Unit Economics From Day 1 & Why Micromanagement Can Be Beneficial In The Early Days with Adena Hefets, Co-Founder @ Divvy Homes
Dec 21, 2020
Insight
Leaders must sometimes act as islands and demand disagree-and-commit
“There will be many moments in a company where you're, as a leader, you will be an island, and you will need to make a decision that you think is best, and you will expect your team to disagree and commit.”
Avlok Kohli Dec 21, 2020 ▶ 8:50 20VC: Why the Theory of Pro-Rata is Often False, How Rolling Funds Impact Both Pricing and Competition & The Biggest Lessons from Working with Jack Dorsey with Avlok Kohli, CEO @ AngelList Venture
Dec 21, 2020 positive
Assertion Supported
Cash App hedged Square when over half its revenue was exposed
“Half of their entire business, actually arguably more, was directly linked to small businesses being affected, but then the way Hashapp came about and became such a great hedge on the rest of the business, it's just been fascinating to watch.”
Avlok Kohli Dec 21, 2020 ▶ 9:34 20VC: Why the Theory of Pro-Rata is Often False, How Rolling Funds Impact Both Pricing and Competition & The Biggest Lessons from Working with Jack Dorsey with Avlok Kohli, CEO @ AngelList Venture
Jan 8, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Stone's angel investment in Square yielded a 1,000x return
“Oh, that would probably be square because it's something like a thousand X return or something.”
Biz Stone Jan 8, 2021 ▶ 31:36 20VC: Twitter Co-Founder Biz Stone on The 3 Stages of Wealth, The Return To Twitter in 2017 and the Associated Missions and Challenges & Why Silicon Valley is not an "Insiders Only" Universe?
Apr 29, 2021 positive
Disclosure
First Round Capital's Second Fund Included Uber, Square, and Roblox
“It turns out that fund had Uber and Square and Roblox in it.”
Chris Fralic Apr 29, 2021 ▶ 9:01 20VC: The Roblox Memo: First Round's Chris Fralic on The 17 Year Journey to Build a $41BN Market Cap Company, Why It Is Way Harder To Increase Ownership Across Rounds Today & What Happens Post SPACMania
May 24, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Morris: Bank executives no longer believe they can outcompete fintech giants
“Five years ago, the people were saying, this is a flash in the pan, this is not going to work, we are better at technology, we have these customer relationships, look, we've got all these branches. This whole fintech thing is tulips in Amsterdam. I think there…”
Nigel Morris May 24, 2021 ▶ 32:58 20VC: Why Bundling Does Not Work, How The Best Founders Analyse Unit Economics, Why The Way We Approach Mental Health in Venture and Startups is Wrong with Nigel Morris, Co-Founder & Managing Partner @ QED Investors
Jul 26, 2021 bullish
Assertion Supported
PayPal and Square surpassed Bank of America and Goldman Sachs in 2020
“Last year, you probably know this, but you know, you've heard some of these stats, like PayPal became more valuable than Bank of America and Square became more valuable than Goldman.”
Nick Shalek Jul 26, 2021 ▶ 23:38 20VC: Ribbit Capital's Nick Shalek on How To Think Through Ownership and Price Sensitivity, When More Money and Pre-Emptive Rounds are Good vs Bad & Investing Lessons from Yale's David Swensen
Sep 20, 2021 bullish
Disclosure
Tung: GGV Invested in Square at an $800 Million Valuation
“We invested in Square at about an eight hundred million dollar valuation, and then when a company went public, the valuation for the first two years was not great, but thereafter, they really found the right market fit and found the right engine for the scale,…”
Hans Tung Sep 20, 2021 ▶ 20:17 20VC: Investing Lessons From Rounds In Peloton and Square, Why Great Investing is Stock-Picking and Sector Penetration & The Next Decade in Venture, Is Tiger's The Right Model with Hans Tung, Managing Partner @ GGV Capital
Sep 30, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Square reduced merchant onboarding from weeks to instant approval for 93%
“Before Square, people sometimes forget, before Square in the United States to get access to the credit card infrastructure. You can apply, in quotes, for a merchant account And that would take three weeks. It would require a credit check and a manual investiga…”
Keith Rabois Sep 30, 2021 ▶ 22:01 20VC: The Opendoor Memo: Keith Rabois on The Origins of Opendoor from a Conversation with Peter Thiel, Why Cash is Not a Competitive Moat for Startups Today and What People Misunderstand About Black Swan Events in Real Estate and How it Impacts Opendoor
Dec 6, 2021 negative
Disclosure
Gurley: Benchmark passed on Jack Dorsey's Series A pitch for Square
“Another one that's very similar, and it wasn't me, it was a different partner, but I don't think I was helpful, was Jack That brought Square to us on the A.”
Bill Gurley Dec 6, 2021 ▶ 36:16 20VC: Bill Gurley and Michael Eisenberg on The First Signs of an Impending Bust, What Happens with a Market Crash, How Do Public Markets Impact Private Valuations & The Biggest Lessons from 20 Years Investing in Venture
Mar 13, 2023 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Reses: Square was the only tech company to build a bank
“And so, you know, and we built a bank at Square. We were the only tech company to ever have built a bank, right?”
Jackie Reses Mar 13, 2023 ▶ 18:14 Jackie Reses & Kris Dickson: What Happened with SVB? Are VCs to Blame? | E988 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 31, 2023 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Reses: Square Built Products Directly Inspired by Alipay's Capabilities
“We drew a lot of inspiration from that in what we built at Square, Because we had seen what was being built at Alipay with firsthand insight, and were able to look at that and draw inspiration from it.”
Jackie Reses Mar 31, 2023 ▶ 27:59 Jackie Reses: The Most Powerful Woman in Finance; Making $50BN for Yahoo on Alibaba | E996 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 31, 2023 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Reses: Dorsey Locked Himself in Square's Office to Build Bitcoin Integration
“I remember in 2017, maybe, yeah, it was end of 20 16 when Jack wanted to put Bitcoin into Cash App. And he, ah, two engineers sat, ah, on the sixth floor of 14 55 market and wouldn't leave the office until they were able to build that product.”
Jackie Reses Mar 31, 2023 ▶ 59:13 Jackie Reses: The Most Powerful Woman in Finance; Making $50BN for Yahoo on Alibaba | E996 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 31, 2023 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Reses: Square Mobilized Entire Workforce as 24/7 PPP Loan Reviewers During COVID
“We developed PPP, this is at Square, in a crisis. And we ended up with a core team of people working on it, and then we literally got the entire company of Square to volunteer for us to be, you know, loan reviewers twenty-four-seven during that period of time,…”
Jackie Reses Mar 31, 2023 ▶ 16:53 Jackie Reses: The Most Powerful Woman in Finance; Making $50BN for Yahoo on Alibaba | E996 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 31, 2023 positive
Insight
Reses: Raw Intelligence and Grit Beat Domain Knowledge for Novel Products
“I would rather focus on things like raw intelligence, judgment, curiosity, grit, ability to manage ambiguity, rather than looking for things like domain knowledge or operators with prior scale experience, you know, that's another big mistake where you assume b…”
Jackie Reses Mar 31, 2023 ▶ 13:18 Jackie Reses: The Most Powerful Woman in Finance; Making $50BN for Yahoo on Alibaba | E996 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 20, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Franceschetti: Everything at Eight Sleep is public internally except compensation
“Everything is, everything, this is another rule from Keith, I think, from the, his time at Square, where, so essentially everything is public in our company except comp. Usually comp, you don't want to share it, but everything else is shared.”
Matteo Franceschetti Nov 20, 2023 ▶ 1:15:03 Matteo Franceschetti: The Ultimate Hiring Playbook: Five Questions to Ask Every New Hire | E1084 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 27, 2023
Disclosure
Rabois: Taking eight years off operating caused severe executive skill atrophy
“Like I took eight years between square and taking over, you know, CEO of open store. It's like muscle atrophy, you know, kind of going with the same metaphor. And it took me the first year at least to get back to be decent as a CEO.”
Keith Rabois Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 17:50 Keith Rabois & Mike Shebat: Creating an Olympian Mindset to Work Ethic| E1087 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 3, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rabois: Khosla and Botha warned me 11 direct reports was excessive
“I used to get yelled at. I went pretty flat at square when I was running hot at like 11 and like Vinod and Roloff gave me feedback that that was too much.”
Keith Rabois May 3, 2024 ▶ 41:15 Keith Rabois & Eric Glyman: The Tools, Tips, Secrets and Process That Drive Efficiency | E1148 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 29, 2024 positive
Assertion Contradicted
Asparouhov: Square Spent Nothing on Marketing in Its First Five-Plus Years
“The company never basically had to spend on marketing for the first year, sort of five plus years of its life.”
Delian Asparouhov Jul 29, 2024 ▶ 12:34 Delian Asparouhov: Inside the Walls of Founders Fund: What the World Does Not See | E1183 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2024 positive
Opinion
Dasilva: Simpler merchants are better served by Clover, Square, or Shopify
“You know, you may be better served by a Clover or a Square or a Shopify.”
Dax Dasilva Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 20:06 Dax Dasilva: $900M ARR at $2.6BN Market Cap?! Lightspeed, The Most Undervalued Public Company |E1188 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Dasilva: Early POS rivals raised hundreds of millions on simple initial products
“They started to come out and even though they were very simple, they had hundreds of millions of dollars being funneled into them.”
Dax Dasilva Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 10:44 Dax Dasilva: $900M ARR at $2.6BN Market Cap?! Lightspeed, The Most Undervalued Public Company |E1188 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2024 negative
What-if
Dasilva: Lightspeed should have launched its cloud product earlier
“We could have done it a couple of years earlier and it could have benefited us to have done it a few years earlier. Our cloud product was out by, you know, 2000 13. You know, Square some other folks like Shopkeep had which we acquired later maybe had a couple …”
Dax Dasilva Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 9:25 Dax Dasilva: $900M ARR at $2.6BN Market Cap?! Lightspeed, The Most Undervalued Public Company |E1188 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 16, 2024
Disclosure
Hoffman passed on early investments in Stripe and Square
“I got pitched early in stripe and square, and I Didn't do the investments because I knew how hard payments was from PayPal.”
Reid Hoffman Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 1:00:28 Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn & Paypal Founder: Trump Administration, Elon Musk and DOGE | E1239 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 16, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rajaram: Square had 11 products generating over $50M each upon his departure
“When I left, we had, I think, 11 products each doing more than fifty million in revenue”
Gokul Rajaram Mar 16, 2026 ▶ 4:03 Gokul Rajaram: How to Analyse for Durability and Defensibility in a World of AI · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 16, 2026 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Rajaram: PayPal raised prices five times in three years early on
“And he told us that PayPal back in the day, raised prices five times. In three years, because there's such stickiness. They knew their customers really couldn't do anything.”
Gokul Rajaram Mar 16, 2026 ▶ 40:34 Gokul Rajaram: How to Analyse for Durability and Defensibility in a World of AI · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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