seed round

also referred to as: seed rounds

34 statements across 32 episodes · 2 bullish · 9 bearish · 29 people on the record · first statement Aug 28, 2015 by Carl Waldekranz · across every show →

Everything said about seed round, oldest first

Aug 28, 2015
Disclosure
Tictail secured seed investor introductions by pitching peer founders for feedback
“What we did when we started pitching, and we were supposed to go out and raise our seed round, we started by pitching other startups. And we would just contact other startups and their founders and say, like, hey, we're a startup as well, we have this pitch, a…”
Carl Waldekranz Aug 28, 2015 ▶ 16:28 FF 010: Becoming Europe's Hottest Startup with Carl Waldekranz, Co-Founder and CEO @ Tictail
Feb 3, 2016
Assertion Supported
The steepest venture funding drop-off occurs between Seed and Series A
“You could argue that probably the biggest drop off happens between the seed and the a rather than the a and the b. And I think that's just because there is so much seed money and there are so many seed funds compared to a funds where, you know, you really, tha…”
Hadley Harris Feb 3, 2016 ▶ 17:25 20VC: The Evolution Of Mobile & The Importance Of Follow On Funding with Hadley Harris @ Eniac Ventures
Feb 29, 2016
Assertion Supported
Seed Rounds Reached $1.5M to $3.5M by 2016
“Seed rounds have really, really gotten a lot bigger in the in the last three or four years, to the point now where you have a pre-seed Round. So you might have a friends and family round of, you know, 25 to 50,000 dollars to get you off the ground. You then do…”
Andy McLoughlin Feb 29, 2016 ▶ 5:06 20VC: SoftTech VC's Andy McLoughlin on The Series A Crunch, Maximising Runway and Minimising Burn and For Startups
Dec 28, 2016
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Seed and friends-and-family rounds were virtually identical in 2008
“In 2008, there's very little difference between a seed round and a friends and family round”
Kent Goldman Dec 28, 2016 ▶ 6:23 20VC: Using Valuation As A Litmus Test, Why Valuation Does Not Matter At Seed Stage & How Seed Funds Can Serve Founders Better with Kent Goldman, Founder @ Upside Partnership
Jan 6, 2017 negative
Insight
Seed investors optimize for Series A appeal over inherently great ideas
“At the seed round, investors aren't necessarily looking for what's a great idea. What they're looking for is what a Series A investor will think is a great idea.”
Henry Ward Jan 6, 2017 ▶ 4:12 20VC: eShares' Henry Ward on Why Portfolio Theory Is Wrong? Why Investors Will Never Take Market Risk & Why You have To Have A Line of Sight To A $Bn Outcome
Mar 8, 2017
Assertion Supported
Hower: Average seed funding rounds were $1M in 2010
“When we started investing in 2010, you know, your average seed round was about a million bucks or slightly larger.”
Lee Hower Mar 8, 2017 ▶ 10:26 20VC: Why Valuation Is Of Critical Importance At Seed, How To Understand Innovation Cycles & Having 3 CEOs and Burning $10m a Month with Lee Hower, Co-Founder @ NextView Ventures
Jan 10, 2020
Disclosure
ScaleFactor Oversubscribed Its Seed Round From $1M to $3.5M
“We set out to raise a million dollars. We ended up oversubscribing that round to three and a half”
Kurt Rathmann Jan 10, 2020 ▶ 8:19 20VC: Raising $105m in Just 13 Months Over 3 Separate Rounds, The 5 Core Ways VCs Can Add Value & How Founders Can and Should Fully Leverage Their Cap Table with Kurt Rathmann, Founder & CEO @ ScaleFactor
Feb 28, 2020 negative
Insight
Founders should raise capital to execute goals, not set goals for fundraising
“Investors kind of set the tone. And sometimes the implied conversation there is, what do you need to do? You need to do A, B, and C in order to raise your seed bounce. You need to do D, E, and F to raise your series A. And I think that's just a really wrong wa…”
Tomer London Feb 28, 2020 ▶ 6:54 20VC: Gusto Co-Founder, Tomer London on Why Most Founders Approach Fundraising With The Wrong Mindset Today, How To Construct A Values/Motivation Alignment Test To Determine The Right Investors For You & Why Delight Is So Crucial To The Success of Any Con
Mar 23, 2020
Assertion Supported
Kumar: Seed rounds grew from $500K in 2009 to $3M by 2020
“At that time, a seed round was 500,000 dollars. Today, a seed round is two to three million dollars, if not more.”
Manu Kumar Mar 23, 2020 ▶ 5:53 20VC: Multi-Stage Funds Investing At Seed Are Option Value Investing, Why The Biggest Enemy For Venture Firms Is Group Think and How Running Companies Changes Your Investment Mentality with Manu Kumar, Founder @ K9 Ventures
Oct 1, 2020
Insight
Boyle: Capital-Intensive Startups Should Raise Larger Seed Rounds
“If you are building a company that's going to take more capital, it makes sense to raise a larger seed because you know that it's going to take you much longer to get to those Series A milestones and those Series B milestones.”
Katherine Boyle Oct 1, 2020 ▶ 27:54 20VC: What Is Founder Narrative Fit and How to Detect and Invest In It, How To Avoid Consensus Thinking When Investing, Price Sensititivity; When To Pay Up vs Stay Disciplined & From New York Times To General Catalyst; Why Venture and Journalism are Not S
May 4, 2021 neutral
Prediction Held up
Tisch: BoxGroup will not lead seed or Series A rounds
“We don't want to lead seed rounds. We don't want to lead series A rounds. We want to be sort of second or third biggest check on a cap table.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 19:56 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
Nov 24, 2021
Assertion Supported
Janz: $500k is now smaller than average VC pre-seed rounds
“And today, as you know, like 500 K is less than the average pre-seed round, right? And seed rounds are often in the millions.”
Christoph Janz Nov 24, 2021 ▶ 20:30 20VC: The Contentful Memo: Point Nine's Christoph Janz on The Cold Email That Led to a Unicorn Investment, How To Approach Market Sizing and Timing & The Pros and Cons of Pre-Emptive Rounds, When To Do Them vs When Not To?
May 9, 2023 bearish
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Kohli: $5M seed party rounds are much harder to execute now
“So two million, you can do a party round. Five million, it's much harder to do a party round now.”
Avlok Kohli May 9, 2023 ▶ 8:33 How Dire is the Startup Funding Market Today? | AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 22, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Wittenborn: Seed-stage consumer subscription apps can reach tens of millions in revenue
“Often with a seed round, you get to tens of millions in revenue.”
Nico Wittenborn May 22, 2023 ▶ 23:07 Nico Wittenborn: Consumer Subscription Apps; Using Evolutionary Biology to Invest; Solo GP's | E1017 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2028
Rob Go Predicts Multistage VC Funds Will Eventually Abandon Seed Investing
“I don't think that it will persist because at some point the multistage funds will say, hey, it's not really worth, worth our time and effort to invest at this stage. And, you know, they'll, they'll turn their attention to later stage rounds where you write bi…”
Rob Go Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 57:28 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 17, 2023 neutral
Opinion
Mohnot: Seed leads are forced to follow on when reputable investors join
“If you lead the seed round and somebody good is following on, you kind of have to follow on.”
Sheel Mohnot Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 8:04 Sheel Mohnot: How I Got Married in the Metaverse; Founder vs Product vs Market | E1035 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 20, 2023 negative
Insight
Maples: $20M-$30M post-money seed rounds generate poor investor returns
“When a seed round is priced at 20 post, 30 post, it's not non-consensus. It's priced to perfection, and it's priced in a way that everybody believes it's gonna succeed, that it's a hot deal. And that's bad for two reasons. It's bad for the investor, Because ev…”
Mike Maples Sep 20, 2023 ▶ 2:56 Is the VC Model Broken? Jason Lemkin, Mike Maples, Eric Paley & Harry Stebbings Debate | E1062 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 18, 2023
Opinion
Stebbings: Seed funds leading rounds today need at least $100 million
“But I think if you're leading seed rounds today, you can't have less than a hundred million dollars.”
Harry Stebbings Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 42:26 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2023
Assertion Supported
Sim: Median pre-seed company age is 1.2 years, seed is 2.7
“The median age of a company that raises a pre-seed round is 1.2 years of age now. And the median age of a company that raises a seed round is 2.7.”
Ed Sim Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 2:14 Ed Sim: Why Seed Has Never Been More Competitive & Why Pricing Has Never Been Higher | E1076 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 3, 2023
Insight
Altman: Investor help does not scale proportionally with check size
“I do think that when people invest more, they naturally end up being closer to the companies. So I think if somebody does half of your seed round versus if they are a small angel, you will generally get more time, but it's not proportionate. And to your point,…”
Jack Altman Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 6:10 Roundtable #5 with Jack Altman, Auren Hoffman, Jason Lemkin, Harry Stebbings | E1077 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 10, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Sim: Seed valuations were the only startup stage to increase since 2021
“There's data from Carta that shows you that if you look at priced rounds from Q one of 20, 21 compared to, let's say Q four of last year, the only round that increased in valuation Was the seed round”
Ed Sim Jan 10, 2024 ▶ 8:48 Ed Sim & Jamin Ball: Did Figma Kill M&A Markets & 3 Requirements to IPO in 2024 | E1101 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 12, 2024
Insight
Rabois: Walking away over seed price signals weak conviction, not discipline
“When at a seed round or a series A round, when you're walking away at price, it is a bit of lack of conviction, and you really should be looking at the mirror and say, why don't I have conviction? Because if you call, if you make the right call at seed, you're…”
Keith Rabois Jan 12, 2024 ▶ 16:26 Keith Rabois on Rejoining Khosla Ventures | E1102 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 5, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rohan: Initial seed funding rounds will permanently remain essential for startups
“I think the seed round is like, if there's one round, and I think this is like an interesting topic, like how funding dynamics and whether you need BC, but I think if there's one round that is Will be essential for forever. It is that first round, right? And i…”
Terrence Rohan Feb 5, 2024 ▶ 1:07:45 David Tisch & Terrence Rohan: Biggest Misconceptions & Hardest Truths About Seed Investing | E1112 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 13, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Blomfield: Founders Were Selling 25% to 30% at Seed Stage
“The advice we've seen, or the trends we've seen over the last few years is that founders were getting way over diluted in their seed round. They're giving away 25 or 30% of their company at seed.”
Tom Blomfield May 13, 2024 ▶ 35:36 Tom Blomfield: Do the Best All Raise Pre-Demo Day & YC's Fundraising Advice to Startups | E 1152 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 15, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Saam Motamedi: Seed rounds frequently hit $100M+ post-money valuations
“It's not unusual for us to see seed rounds for companies that are just getting started being priced in the many tens of millions of dollars, even a hundred million dollar plus post money ranges.”
Saam Motamedi Jul 15, 2024 ▶ 0:05 Saam Motamedi: Why Series B Won’t Make Money & Why $1M ARR is a BS Milestone for Series A | E1177 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 17, 2025
Disclosure
Monday.com spent 80% of its seed funding before pivoting
“And, you know, after you know, we kind of spend like 70 or 80% of our seed round, we sat down and said to ourselves, look, something is not working.”
Eran Zinman Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 10:15 Eran Zinman, Co-Founder & Co-CEO @Monday.com: Going Upmarket, International and Multi-Product |E1247 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 20, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kanji: Seed rounds of $5M+ now account for 20% of seed market
“The jumbo seeds, like, up six to seven times in volume than they were a couple of years ago, and the seed rounds that are five million plus are a fifth of the industry right now.”
Hussein Kanji Jan 20, 2025 ▶ 46:01 Hussein Kanji, Founder @Hoxton Ventures: Why AI Means London Can Compete with the US | E1248 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Stebbings: Seed Round Dilution Has Compressed From 15% to 10%
“There's a lot more dilution sensitivity at seed where very often today the whole round is 10% and we're able to do seven and a half with two and a half for angels. Whereas before it was 15 with 12 and a half and two and a half. And I've really seen that compre…”
Harry Stebbings Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 13:59 How LP Deployment to Venture Will Change in 2025 & Are Endowment Funds in Trouble? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 19, 2025
Disclosure
Decagon raised seed funding from Andreessen Horowitz before having an idea
“The seed round we raised before we had any ideas. So we raised from Andreessen Horowitz.”
Jesse Zhang Sep 19, 2025 ▶ 13:46 20VC: Why 90% of Founders Build Startups Wrong | Why AI Growth Rates are Sustainable & Remote Work is BS and the AI Talent War | Competing with Brett Taylor and Sierra: Who Wins the Customer Service War with Jesse Zhang, Decagon
Feb 2, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zeev: Overvalued Series A rounds with no progression have existed for 30 years
“It's always been the case. It's always been the case, even 30 years ago, that someone invests you know, you have a seed round basically founders in the idea it's priced low. And then a year and a half later, basically, they have now 20 people, they have an off…”
Oren Zeev Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 50:07 Oren Zeev: Why AI Growth Expectations Are BS & Won't Last? Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy
Feb 2, 2026 negative
Insight
Zeev: Startups lacking PMF after two years should be valued below their seed round
“The very fact that after a year or two they don't have signs of product market fit, maybe it means that, you know, it should be worth less than what it was worth at the seed, because at the seed you had the option value of maybe within a year or two you will h…”
Oren Zeev Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 52:27 Oren Zeev: Why AI Growth Expectations Are BS & Won't Last? Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy
Feb 2, 2026 negative
Opinion
Stebbings: Series A is currently the worst stage for venture investing
“I look at Series A today, dude, and I think it's the worst place to be investing, and so I'd love your thoughts on this. You know, we have 200 XAROs, 150 XAROs, there's very little company progression from the seed round, but there's a very steep price increas…”
Harry Stebbings Feb 2, 2026 ▶ 49:37 Oren Zeev: Why AI Growth Expectations Are BS & Won't Last? Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy
Apr 14, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Midha: Anthropic Cut Initial Seed Target From $500M to $100M
“Remember we originally tried to go out and raise five hundred million and then had to re-anchor to only raising a hundred million dollar seed round”
Anjney Midha Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 17:47 The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Rejected It | The Four Bottlenecks in AI | Anj Midha · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 16, 2026
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: The top 5% of seed rounds now hit $200M valuations
“The top five percent of seed rounds hit two hundred million dollar valuation.”
Harry Stebbings Jul 16, 2026 ▶ 1:01:35 Zuckerberg Back on X Challenging Codex & Claude Code | SK Hynix’s $26BN IPO · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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