search engine optimization

also referred to as: seo

21 statements across 13 episodes · 11 bullish · 2 bearish · 14 people on the record · first statement Sep 22, 2021 by Harry Stebbings · across every show →

Everything said about search engine optimization, oldest first

Sep 22, 2021 positive
Assertion Supported
Casey Winters scaled Pinterest signup conversion 5x via SEO
“At Pinterest, Casey turned SEO into a scalable acquisition strategy, increasing conversion to signups, five X.”
Harry Stebbings Sep 22, 2021 ▶ 0:47 Welcome 20Growth: How To Hire a Head of Growth? What are Signs of World-Class Talent? How To Structure the Process? How To Onboard Growth Teams? The Relationship Between Head of Growth and CEO and more with Casey Winters, Chief Product Officer @ Eventbrit
Jul 13, 2022
Insight
Levesque: Product growth includes M&A and new products, not just channels
“Not to look at growth or even product building as one specific thing to grow your product. You can look at it in terms of SEO or paid loops or viral, but it's also about M&A and building entirely new products.”
Luc Levesque Jul 13, 2022 ▶ 5:59 Luc Levesque: The Biggest Mistakes Founders Make When Hiring for Growth | 20VC #906 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 18, 2023 positive
Insight
Top companies always rely on viral loops or SEO for long-term growth
“Over time, you will see all the best, most successful companies, they always have some sort of a viral approach or content-based SEO approach.”
Hila Qu Jan 18, 2023 ▶ 8:52 Hila Qu: The Ultimate Guide to Product Growth at Your Startup | 20VC #967 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 12, 2023 negative
Opinion
Joost de Valk: Google made tracking non-CPC marketing channels impossible
“Measuring the success of SEO is hard, because Google has very, very, very success, successfully, and I'm going to get shit for this Google has very successfully made it impossible for people to track the effect of anything but CPC.”
Joost de Valk Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 35:05 Joost de Valk: How I Founded Yoast; The Ultimate Guide to SEO; The Threat of AI | E1000 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 12, 2023
Insight
Joost de Valk: SEO cannot create demand, only capture existing search intent
“You can't really create demand with SEO. So that, I mean, that is the thing that, that is very counterintuitive to a lot of people, but SEO is very demand driven, just like AdWords is very demand driven. The demand has to be there. You can't create the demand.”
Joost de Valk Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 31:09 Joost de Valk: How I Founded Yoast; The Ultimate Guide to SEO; The Threat of AI | E1000 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 12, 2023
Insight
Joost de Valk: Website owners want technical SEO abstracted away entirely
“There's basically two sides SEO, right? You have the technical stuff and you have the content side of things, and the technical stuff is not something that anyone wants to think about.”
Joost de Valk Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 1:28 Joost de Valk: How I Founded Yoast; The Ultimate Guide to SEO; The Threat of AI | E1000 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 12, 2023
Insight
Joost de Valk: Series B companies should shift 10% of CPC budget to SEO
“So if you're already doing CPC, I take 10% of your CPC budget and allocate it to SEO.”
Joost de Valk Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 34:32 Joost de Valk: How I Founded Yoast; The Ultimate Guide to SEO; The Threat of AI | E1000 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 12, 2023 positive
Prediction Partly held up
De Valk: SEO investment increases during economic downturns
“SEO is probably going to be invested in more instead of less in a down market because people look at their AdWords bill and they go like, oh, maybe we should do something about that.”
Joost de Valk Apr 12, 2023 ▶ 18:48 Joost de Valk: How I Founded Yoast; The Ultimate Guide to SEO; The Threat of AI | E1000 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 26, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Sri Batchu: Ramp unifies paid marketing, SEO, and PLG under one team
“And at RAMP they're all under one roof which is great and have the same kind of north stars and goals.”
Sri Batchu Jul 26, 2023 ▶ 6:26 Sri Batchu: Biggest Growth Lesson from Instacart & Opendoor; 70% of Experiments Should Fail | E1040 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 20, 2024 neutral
Insight
Carter: Winning in LLM Optimization Requires the Exact Same Assets as SEO
“A lot of the underlying things that you need to do to be really successful in SEO. Are the same things that you need to do to be really successful with these LLMs, right? You need to have a product that is relevant. You need to have content that people find in…”
Phil Carter Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 1:16:36 Phil Carter: Growth Loops, CAC + LTV Benchmarks, Pricing, Discounts, Paywalls... | E1204 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 20, 2024
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Phil Carter: SEO drove over 70% of Quizlet's growth
“With that context SEO was driving more than 70% of Quizlet's growth and had been for some time.”
Phil Carter Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 16:10 Phil Carter: Growth Loops, CAC + LTV Benchmarks, Pricing, Discounts, Paywalls... | E1204 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 20, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Carter: Quizlet Generated 95%+ of User Acquisition Organically via SEO
“Quizlet that's, you know, 95% plus organic acquisition through SEO and word of mouth”
Phil Carter Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 4:06 Phil Carter: Growth Loops, CAC + LTV Benchmarks, Pricing, Discounts, Paywalls... | E1204 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 17, 2025 positive
Insight
Rangan: Marketing requires meeting customers on platforms rather than relying on SEO
“It used to be the customers just visited our website, but today they are On YouTube, they're on Instagram, they're on, you know, other, you know, TikTok, and they're on LinkedIn, and you need to be where your customers are, not just expect them to come to wher…”
Yamini Rangan Mar 17, 2025 ▶ 47:48 Yamini Rangan, CEO @ HubSpot: How HubSpot Competes Against Salesforce · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 4, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Obrecht: SEO now accounts for 15% of Canva organic acquisition
“SEO is about 50, 15% of the 90% organic to date, so it used to be our number one channel, but now our sort of like user flywheel, word of mouth, and people sharing designs are our biggest.”
Cliff Obrecht Sep 4, 2025 ▶ 1:01:57 Anthropic Raises $13BN & OpenAI Buys Statsig for $1.1BN All Stock · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 4, 2025 positive
Opinion
Lemkin: SEO is only dead for companies without brand or value
“This whole thing about SEO being dead is, is stupid. It's dead for folks that don't have a brand, don't add value and don't have reach.”
Jason Lemkin Sep 4, 2025 ▶ 1:03:45 Anthropic Raises $13BN & OpenAI Buys Statsig for $1.1BN All Stock · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 5, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Alex Schultz: AI engine optimization TAM will surpass the SEO market
“It should be a much bigger market because the agents are going to take actions. I mean, the agents are already taking actions for people. And so in a world where there are actually actions being taken at the endpoint, it's not just presenting a link to somebod…”
Alex Schultz Sep 5, 2025 ▶ 49:18 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
Oct 24, 2025 positive
Insight
Diao: Traditional SEO automatically drives traffic from generative AI engines
“If you do the things that are good for SEO traditionally, you're going to benefit from it. From GEO. And that's already been proven by many companies who already start to get a lot of organic traffic from generative engines, even without optimizing for those m…”
Sandy Diao Oct 24, 2025 ▶ 40:29 20Growth: How to Build a Paid Marketing Machine: ROAS (Return on Ad Spend) 101 | The Rise of User Generated Content and How to Use It | TikTok Ads: Expectations vs. Reality | Hiring for Growth: When and Who with Sandy Diao
Oct 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Diao: LLMs rely on the same crawling systems as traditional search engines
“SEO foundations are unchanged. And what I mean by that is some of the same systems that we rely on to get our websites indexed, our content seen, visible, crawled by Googlebot, and the rest of the internet are still the same systems that LLMs and generative en…”
Sandy Diao Oct 24, 2025 ▶ 37:18 20Growth: How to Build a Paid Marketing Machine: ROAS (Return on Ad Spend) 101 | The Rise of User Generated Content and How to Use It | TikTok Ads: Expectations vs. Reality | Hiring for Growth: When and Who with Sandy Diao
Dec 1, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Siddharth: Budget transition to AI is highest in marketing and support
“I think the transfer is pretty high in areas like customer support copywriting SEO, like some of these marketing related areas.”
Jonathan Siddharth Dec 1, 2025 ▶ 21:40 Turing CEO Jonathan Siddharth: Who Wins in Data Labelling & Why 99% of Knowledge Work Will Disappear · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 31, 2026 bullish
Disclosure
Wix is increasing its SEO investment despite the rise of AI
“Not down, actually up. Because there are so many more things that need to be done today.”
Omer Shai Jan 31, 2026 ▶ 30:13 20Growth: How Wix Built a $100M Marketing Machine | Why LTV is BS and Why Time Return On Investment is the Most Important Metric | How to 10x Your Growth: What is the Next Great Channel with Omer Shai, CMO @ Wix
Mar 14, 2026 bearish
Insight
Verna: SEO is a necessary baseline, not a competitive differentiator
“Like, you still have to invest in SEO if you want to have the baseline of growth. But is SEO gonna be the reason that you're gonna win in your business? I don't think so. It's just something that you have to do. This is not gonna be the reason why you're gonna…”
Elena Verna Mar 14, 2026 ▶ 5:08 Elena Verna: How Lovable Launches Product & Hacks Social to Go Viral · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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