OKRs

11 statements across 10 episodes · 0 bullish · 8 bearish · 10 people on the record · first statement Nov 11, 2016 by Jay Desai · across every show →

Everything said about OKRs, oldest first

Nov 11, 2016 negative
Insight
Desai: Having multiple standard OKRs is the exact opposite of focus
“Three of them. One, grow revenues. Two, deliver more value to customers. Three, build a great team. A couple of undistracted, sorry, a couple of distracted, highly unfocused quarters later, we realized that those three OKRs could be universally applied to any …”
Jay Desai Nov 11, 2016 ▶ 16:01 20VC: VC / Founder Fit with 3 Things Founders & VCs Must Agree Pre-Investment & Why Having No Company Budgets Creates Internal Entrepreneurs with Jay Desai, Founder & CEO @ PatientPing
Jun 1, 2018
Insight
Achieving 100% of OKRs indicates sandbagging and conservative goal-setting
“If you're doing it right, then on average, you're averaging about 70% accomplishment as a company. And if you're getting close to a hundred, it means that you're really sandbagging and that you're not setting aggressive enough goals.”
Jack Groetzinger Jun 1, 2018 ▶ 9:35 20VC: Why Every Startup Will Either Fail or Rebrand, How To Do OKRs The Right Way & How To Know The Reversible From the Irreversible Mistakes with Jack Groetzinger, Founder & CEO @ SeatGeek
Sep 25, 2020 negative
Opinion
Google's 70% OKR target eventually became a passive-aggressive commitment-avoidance tool
“Google has one really famous thing about OKRs is that you're expected to only hit 70% of your OKRs, which in the early days was really helpful. It was really a symbol of think big. In the later days, it became a passive-aggressive way to avoid commitment.”
Shishir Mehrotra Sep 25, 2020 ▶ 27:36 20VC: The 4 Phases of Effective Decision-Making, The No 1 Quality of Good Decisions, How To Approach Effective OKR Setting, & How To Optimise and Improve Your Operating Cadence with Shishir Mehrotra, Founder & CEO @ Coda
Aug 3, 2022 negative
Insight
Doshi: Process and OKRs alone do not drive product success
“Make sure you set OKRs, make sure you execute well and success will be yours. No, that is not how anything works in the real world. Right? That is actually the operator speaking when that operator has taken a product from say, 20 to 60, or 60 to a hundred, and…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 34:33 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 28, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Cris Valenzuela says Runway rejected OKRs despite investor recommendations
“At some point we thought, oh, we need, like, OKRs and systems because some, an investor told me once that that's the way companies do it. We tried and I was like, this is no. Why? This is the worst thing you can do right now. It's like, you don't need this.”
Cris Valenzuela Aug 28, 2023 ▶ 36:07 Cris Valenzuela: AI Creators vs Hollywood Writers; How We Grew Runway into a $1.5B Company | E1054 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 25, 2023
Insight
Lerner: Startups must focus on one or two bets to succeed
“The whole point of strategy is to say no to most things and focus in on a small number of really high leverage things. Like you have to make that bet. When you see companies with nine company level OKRs at the top level or whatever, right? They're just trying …”
Ely Lerner Oct 25, 2023 ▶ 0:00 Ely Lerner: Should Startups Hire Advisors & How much should they be paid? | E1075 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 6, 2023 negative
Insight
OKRs Encourage Political Gaming by Focusing on Metrics Over Strategy
“The reason why I don't like The framework is that it doesn't actually talk about strategy. It just gives a goal and then it just tells the team like, go hit this goal, but there's no thinking on the exec level about like how we can actually achieve that goal a…”
Geoff Charles Dec 6, 2023 ▶ 29:18 Geoff Charles: How To Hire Product Teams & Increase Product Velocity | E1091 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 16, 2024 negative
Insight
Perret: OKRs were built for manufacturing and fail in software development
“OKRs were built for manufacturing. We don't manufacture software.”
Zach Perret Oct 16, 2024 ▶ 0:08 Zach Perret: Why ‘Founder Mode’ is the Most Dangerous Blog Post for Founders | E1215 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 16, 2024 negative
Insight
Perret: Setting OKRs or revenue metrics before product-market fit is totally wrong
“So the OKR stuff, like putting OKRs in a business way too early is totally wrong. Putting revenue metrics on a company before they've achieved product market fit, totally wrong.”
Zach Perret Oct 16, 2024 ▶ 48:02 Zach Perret: Why ‘Founder Mode’ is the Most Dangerous Blog Post for Founders | E1215 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 25, 2024 negative
Opinion
Goldberg: OKRs do not work well for early-stage software companies
“He was saying, why were they lifted from the manufacturing industry and plopped down into the software world? And I would very much agree with that.”
Mark Goldberg Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 19:34 Mark Goldberg: Why Politics is Rife & Decision-Making is Broken in Large VCs | E1219 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 7, 2025
Insight
Tolkin: Teams earn long-term OKR planning by delivering on short-term horizons
“The more nuanced answer is you earn the right to set OKRs on longer time horizons by proving you can execute on shorter time horizons.”
Brian Tolkin Feb 7, 2025 ▶ 23:05 Brian Tolkin, Head of Product @Opendoor: How to Hire the Best Product Teams | E1257 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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