Shreyas Doshi

Startup Advisor & Executive Coach · 1 appearance on the record, plus 1 compilation re-air.

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Doshi is known across the tech industry for his frameworks on product strategy, execution, and cohort-based courses. Before transitioning into full-time advising and coaching, he served as Stripe's first PM manager, Director of Product Management at Twitter, and Group Product Manager at Google.

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answered every one of 34 assessed questions directly

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246 words/min while actually speaking · 72.1 um and uh per 1k words · 17.9 false starts per 1k · 27.3% of pauses land inside a clause

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Everything Shreyas Doshi said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Doshi: Operator product leaders cannot achieve product-market fit alone
“It is nearly impossible for an operator to bring your product to product market fit.”
Shreyas Doshi Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 6:38 20Product: When to Hire a CPO, The Three Different Types of CPO, How To Know What You Need, How To Structure the Hiring Process, What Are the Must-Ask Questions, What Tests and Case Studies Should Be Used, How Should Their Compensation Package Be Structur
Insight
Doshi: Operator-style product leaders struggle to generate original product insights
“The operator is excellent at scaling teams, driving cross-org alignment, and unblocking execution. And the operator superpower is communication. On the other hand, one of their challenges is actually original product insight.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 19:03 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Operator Product Leaders Rarely Achieve Product-Market Fit Alone
“It is nearly impossible for an operator to solely or mainly bring your product to product market fit. Now, it can happen, but it's extremely rare, and you should not bank on it.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 23:11 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Process and OKRs alone do not drive product success
“Make sure you set OKRs, make sure you execute well and success will be yours. No, that is not how anything works in the real world. Right? That is actually the operator speaking when that operator has taken a product from say, 20 to 60, or 60 to a hundred, and…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 34:33 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Spending years matching incumbent table stakes produces an inferior product
“If we were to just build all of these, what I call table stakes features, it would just take us five years just to even just basically meet the table stakes. And we could have done that. We could have done that, but at the end of those five years, you end up w…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 42:36 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Product teams should track usage inputs rather than output adoption metrics
“Adoption is an end result of something else you do. So you're better off measuring those things, those other things. And that's where things like usage metrics come in or even health metrics come in. So usage metric is about how people are actually using the p…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 8:06 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Underserved customers forgive missing features if core needs are exceeded
“When you target a specific segment and meet their unfulfilled needs in surprising ways, and you go way above table stakes, you differentiate, they will give you a lot of leeway. They will be willing to live without a bunch of other conventional table stakes, b…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 47:02 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: A great product idea is secondary to founder capability in startups
“What I realized over time is that, that is a necessary, but by no means a sufficient condition. In fact, it's not even one of the main conditions. And instead I realized that like the core thing that Matters is just, you know, how great is this founder?”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 48:28 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Doshi: Stripe co-founder Patrick Collison fits the visionary craftsperson product archetype
“My assessment would be that Patrick is very much a visionary craftsperson type person, so, you know, every time I've interacted with him, and I learned a lot from, you know, about product from interacting with him. That's been the conversation is, is the visio…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 50:09 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Doshi: Stripe co-founder John Collison excels at all three product leadership archetypes
“John is interesting in that, like you know, he is He's one of the rare people who can do, I think, who kind of can do, and I've seen him do all three really well. In fact, there were many times when like John was managing certain teams on an interim basis at S…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 51:15 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Founders overemphasize resumes and ignore instincts in product hires
“They overemphasize background, resume, titles, and companies that the executive has worked at and they often ignore their instinct about the executive during the interview process and then unfortunately, end up regretting the choice six months, 12 months down …”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 58:13 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi categorizes product leaders into operators, craftspeople, and visionaries
“One of the patterns is the three types of product leaders, and they are the operator, the craftsperson, and the visionary.”
Shreyas Doshi Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 4:52 20Product: When to Hire a CPO, The Three Different Types of CPO, How To Know What You Need, How To Structure the Hiring Process, What Are the Must-Ask Questions, What Tests and Case Studies Should Be Used, How Should Their Compensation Package Be Structur
Insight
Doshi: Craftsperson product leader is the default early-stage hire
“That is a reasonable default, especially if you're early stage, say perhaps pre-PMF or just about reaching PMF. Then craps person is of good default.”
Shreyas Doshi Feb 3, 2023 ▶ 8:58 20Product: When to Hire a CPO, The Three Different Types of CPO, How To Know What You Need, How To Structure the Hiring Process, What Are the Must-Ask Questions, What Tests and Case Studies Should Be Used, How Should Their Compensation Package Be Structur
Insight
Doshi: Product success requires user adoption, customer satisfaction, and business impact
“You need to start with three things to begin evaluating product success, which is user adoption, customer satisfaction, and business impact.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 4:28 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Health metrics rarely drive growth but ignoring them impedes business
“Health metrics by themselves will rarely drive your business forward, but health metrics, if you don't pay attention to them, Can drastically impede your business.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 10:40 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Early-stage startups do not need a perfect North Star metric
“The North Star metric is not a panacea. Just defining, finding the perfect metric as your NSM is actually not necessary, right? Like you when you're, especially when you're early stage what you're mainly looking for is, is my product resonating, right?”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 11:50 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Early-stage products get more signal from qualitative inputs than metrics
“Especially for early stage product. I often say that you're going to get a lot more signal from the Qualitative inputs than you are simply from your North star metric.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 13:14 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Early-stage founders must be directly involved in setting key metrics
“In either case, whether you're competent with it or you don't feel highly competent with it your involvement as a founder is extremely necessary, especially for an early stage product.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 15:54 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Craftsperson is the best default product leader hire for early startups
“That is a reasonable default, especially if you're early stage startup and say perhaps you know, pre-PMF or just about reaching PMF, then craftsperson is a fairly good default.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 27:14 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Product leaders cannot maintain direct team mind-meld beyond 25 members
“If you're managing a team of 20 or 25 people you can, like, have a, sort of, you know, personal relationship, some amount of trust, some amount of, like, just mind meld with a group that's, say, 20 or 25. But now your team is 50 people including engineers, des…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 29:43 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: Visionary leaders need craftspeople to execute big product visions
“A visionary finds it hard to translate that to concrete product steps. Like, okay, so I want to do this. I want to revolutionize, I don't know, spreadsheets, right? Like, and I have a certain, certain vision in my head of how that is supposed to happen. But wh…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 35:41 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: High customer motivation allows products longer onboarding time to value
“When the core customer motivation is extremely high, you can afford to lengthen that time to value. Right? But when the core customer motivation is not that high, eh, and particularly you have to remember, it's not just about what they hope to accomplish, it's…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 53:21 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: New product leaders shouldn't rush value creation in first 60 days
“First, focus on understanding the customer and the domain extremely well. Don't Pressure yourself into creating value within the first 30 days or even the six, first 60 days because you are playing the long game and also build, start building relationships and…”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 58:52 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Doshi: All product metrics fall into six foundational categories
“Overall product metric metrics fall in about six categories. So that's a good place to start. And they are health metrics, usage metrics, adoption metrics, satisfaction metrics, Ecosystem metrics and outcome metrics.”
Shreyas Doshi Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 6:19 Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E913 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
20Product: When to Hire a CPO, The Three Different Types of CPO, How To Know What You Need compilation Feb 3, 2023 8m
Shreyas Doshi: The 6 Product Metrics You Need To Know; The 3 Types of Product Leader | E91 Aug 3, 2022 48m
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