multi-stage fund

also referred to as: multi-stage funds · multistage fund · multistage funds

25 statements across 24 episodes · 4 bullish · 13 bearish · 19 people on the record · first statement Jul 15, 2019 by Santi Subotovsky · across every show →

Everything said about multi-stage fund, oldest first

Jul 15, 2019 negative
Assertion Supported
Subotovsky: Multi-stage VC funds follow on in only 30% of early investments
“A lot of entrepreneurs underestimate the negative effect of signaling. They raise from this multi-stage funds, and this multi-stage funds are incredibly focused, and typically they follow on on about 30% of their earlier stage investments, and that's an incred…”
Santi Subotovsky Jul 15, 2019 ▶ 25:09 20VC: Zoom From Series A to IPO, How VCs Can Provide CEOs with Additional Leverage and Why The Negative Effects of Signalling Are Very Real with Santi Subotovsky, General Partner @ Emergence Capital
Sep 16, 2019 neutral
Opinion
Shah: Seed valuations do not matter to multi-stage mega-funds
“The pricing, when you just have three people and they've got a prototype doesn't really matter right now. So if they want four on 20 or four on 25 or four on 30, it just doesn't matter. We can deal with that later.”
Semil Shah Sep 16, 2019 ▶ 13:40 20VC: Haystack's Semil Shah on Whether Founders Are Bypassing Seed Funds in Favour Of Less Dilutive Multi-Stage Funds, How Fund Strategy Changes With Fund Scaling & Why The Hardest Challenge is Price Discipline
Oct 18, 2019 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bahat: Bloomberg Beta loses seed deals to multi-stage VCs at 2-3x valuations
“And when we lose on a two or three X price difference often because again, valuation is a function of fund size.”
Roy Bahat Oct 18, 2019 ▶ 18:06 20VC Exclusive: Roy Bahat on Bloomberg Beta's New Fund, The Truth About Valuation That Very Few VCs Will Tell You & Why Founders of Venture Backed Startups Make The Best Angels
May 11, 2020 negative
Opinion
Stebbings: Seed funds cannot reliably build ownership in breakout startups
“With data transparency now, they come in very aggressively on anything that's popping, and the theory that you can build ownership over time, to me, is actually quite false, and I don't actually see it, because in the companies that are obviously popping, mult…”
Harry Stebbings May 11, 2020 ▶ 28:46 20VC: Floodgate's Mike Maples on 3 Key Breakthroughs Startups Experience in Success, The Rise of Angel and Operator Funds, Multi-Stage Funds Re-Entering Seed Investing and The Insight Development Framework
Aug 14, 2020 negative
Opinion
Anna Khan: Multi-Stage VC Funds Apply Generic Playbooks to Early-Stage Startups
“I think multi-stage funds kind of slap on playbooks. They're not very customized, and it's hard to launch with those kind of plain vanilla playbooks.”
Anna Khan Aug 14, 2020 ▶ 24:07 20VC: Why Few Firms Are Doing True Early Stage Investing Today, Why Founders Should Spend Time with Analysts When Raising & The Rise of Pre-Empting Rounds and How To Know When To Engage vs Wait with Anna Khan, General Partner @ CRV
Aug 14, 2020 negative
Insight
Harry Stebbings: Multi-Stage Seed Investors Lack Incentive to Drive Up Series A
“If you take in a multi-stage fund at seed, they are not incented to price you up at the A because they're already in and they've got their ownership.”
Harry Stebbings Aug 14, 2020 ▶ 24:44 20VC: Why Few Firms Are Doing True Early Stage Investing Today, Why Founders Should Spend Time with Analysts When Raising & The Rise of Pre-Empting Rounds and How To Know When To Engage vs Wait with Anna Khan, General Partner @ CRV
Nov 6, 2020 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Weinberg: Multi-stage seed strategy will only work for top-tier funds
“And my guess, and I haven't modeled this, but my guess is, as with all of these things, there will be a subset of these funds where it works. Because they catch the five companies that they can continue to plow money into and end up putting five hundred millio…”
Zach Weinberg Nov 6, 2020 ▶ 22:58 20VC: Zach Weinberg on Whether A Company is a Democracy, The Importance of Ownership, The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, Multi-Stage Funds Entering Seed and How he Approaches Both Risk and Personal Capital Allocation
May 4, 2021 negative
Insight
Tisch: Small checks from large funds yield minimal partner attention
“So if I'm going to take a three million dollar check from you know that you're in the bottom quartile of money allocated from that fund. So assuming that you're going to get this magical attention allocation from the fund is a mistake.”
David Tisch May 4, 2021 ▶ 18:27 20VC: David Tisch on Why Ownership in Venture Does Not Matter, His Biggest Investing Misses and Hits and How His Investing Style Changed as a Result & 3 Core Reasons VCs Pass That Do Not Make Sense
Aug 15, 2022
Assertion Supported
Mohnot: Multi-stage funds reduced Series A ownership targets from 20% to 15%
“Is a lot of, let's say a lot of the like multi-stage funds, typically historically leading series A's, they used to have an ownership threshold of. 20% minimum. And now they have a lower ownership threshold, 15.”
Sheel Mohnot Aug 15, 2022 ▶ 22:02 Sheel Mohnot: Lessons from Investing in Flexport and Missing on Robinhood | 20VC #917 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Stebbings: Partner churn at multi-stage funds hinders Series A fundraising
“The one thing I think does make a difference is when you have partner churn at multi-stage funds, so if you can be orphaned at multi-stage funds, even if you do well, if there's no real owner, it can be a lot more difficult to have your internal champion to le…”
Harry Stebbings Mar 24, 2023 ▶ 10:49 Mike Maples: Lessons from SVB; Crisis Management Tips; USD's Status as the Reserve Currency | E993 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 22, 2023 negative
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: Multi-stage VC funds are moving downstream into seed deals
“All the multi-stage funds just don't want to put cash out the door, but they all want to be in market. So they're all moving earlier and earlier to seed.”
Harry Stebbings May 22, 2023 ▶ 1:02:39 Nico Wittenborn: Consumer Subscription Apps; Using Evolutionary Biology to Invest; Solo GP's | E1017 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2028
Rob Go Predicts Multistage VC Funds Will Eventually Abandon Seed Investing
“I don't think that it will persist because at some point the multistage funds will say, hey, it's not really worth, worth our time and effort to invest at this stage. And, you know, they'll, they'll turn their attention to later stage rounds where you write bi…”
Rob Go Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 57:28 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2023 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2028
Lemkin: Multi-stage VC funds writing small pre-seed checks will fade
“Because you can't return a two billion dollar fund writing tiny checks into pre-seed companies. You can't return a two billion dollar fund.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 9, 2023 ▶ 15:04 Jason Lemkin: Every VC has a FRAUD in their portfolio; The IPO market is about to EXPLODE | E1046 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 20, 2023
Assertion Partly supported
Multi-Stage VC Funds Are Retreating From Series A to Seed
“As mentioned, many of the multistage funds are reluctant to deploy the 20 to forty million dollar Series A and B checks, and are instead moving to seed to remain in market, still writing checks, but putting fewer dollars out the door.”
Harry Stebbings Oct 20, 2023 ▶ 17:26 20VC: NEW FORMAT: Harry Stebbings on Why Seed Pricing is as High as Ever, Why Series A is the Best Place to Invest Today, Why Growth Founders Need to Reshape Expectations, Why M&A Windows Remain Shut and When Will IPO Windows Crack Open
Nov 17, 2023 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Nov 2028
Quinn: Venture investors will return to syndicate co-investing across rounds
“I think we spent far too many years with the multi-stage funds and then suddenly realizing, wow, now I'm the only one on the cap table. There's no one else to turn to. There's no one else around to like help support this company with me. And so I think we're g…”
Nicole Quinn Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 40:18 Roundtable #6 with Rebecca Kaden, Nicole Quinn, Eurie Kim, Harry Stebbings | E1083 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 12, 2024
Insight
Rabois: Multi-stage venture investors cannot constantly join seed-stage boards
“You cannot be an institutional investor in a multistage fund, constantly joining boards at Seed, so you have to be very judicious, so the feedback wasn't wrong, it was just wrong as applied to that company.”
Keith Rabois Jan 12, 2024 ▶ 12:38 Keith Rabois on Rejoining Khosla Ventures | E1102 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 6, 2024 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2029
Stebbings: Multi-stage entry prices will cut seed fund returns in half
“I actually think that they've come in with such efficiency that actually they've made it so much harder for the existing pure seed players. They've increased price. They've increased supply. I think you will see returns significantly denigrate. We all saw five…”
Harry Stebbings Sep 6, 2024 ▶ 13:42 Nicholas Chirls: Why Big VCs Ruin Startups, VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today & Most VCs are Bankers |E1198 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 16, 2024
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shah: Seed investors use signaling risk as a tactical objection
“In the seed market most seed investors are using signaling as part of an objection to work with a multi-stage fund.”
Shardul Shah Sep 16, 2024 ▶ 31:16 Shardul Shah: How Index Makes Decisions & Why Benchmarks & Averages in VC are BS | E1202 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 6, 2025 positive
Insight
Maples: Seed funds are better positioned for secondary sales than multi-stage funds
“You can make money on the buy, and you can make money on the sell. And what most people don't understand is that the seed funds are actually better positioned to make money on the sell than anybody. Better, better positioned than the multi-stage by a wide marg…”
Mike Maples Jan 6, 2025 ▶ 36:23 Mike Maples: Three Frameworks to Evaluate Startups and Founders | E1242 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 24, 2025 neutral
Opinion
O'Driscoll: Green Oaks' seed success reflects deal-picking, not a systemic VC shift
“I'm not sure it says something systemic about seed versus non seed. I just think it says extraordinarily good picking from a very connected investor who just You know, most of whose stuff is working really well at a much higher level and to go from, you know, …”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 11:23 How LP Deployment to Venture Will Change in 2025 & Are Endowment Funds in Trouble? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 12, 2025 positive
Prediction Open · timeframe May 2035
Akhund: Multi-stage venture capital funds will inevitably go public
“It seems inevitable that a few of these multi-stage funds will IPO and be public companies, right? Like we had some stuff about GC doing it. Yeah. I think that's just going to happen.”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 53:59 20VC Exclusive: Mercury Founder Launches First $26M Fund with Immad Akhund · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 4, 2025 bearish
Insight
$7B Multi-Stage VC Funds Require $800B in Exit Cap for 4x Net
“You're close to, you know, eight hundred billion of market cap needed to return a Forex net for those multi-stage funds. Now, for reference, twenty-twenty-one, the best exit year of all time, there was 850 billion-ish of market cap exit value from that year. O…”
Miles Dieffenbach Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 38:34 Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 10, 2025
Insight
Randle: Multi-stage VC funds must invest in $1B ARR 'golden categories'
“A golden category is a category that, as like the entire market for a single product adds a billion of net new ARR in a single year. And like, if you find a golden category, you essentially, if you're, especially if you're a multi-stage fund, you have to have …”
Everett Randle Nov 10, 2025 ▶ 17:05 Benchmark's GP, Everett Randle on Why Mega Funds Will Not Produce Good Returns · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 9, 2026 positive
Insight
Clements: VC funds must ladder ownership over time to reach 20%
“Today, you have to back into 20% the other way. Like, you do what the market will allow in the earliest possible investment. You sponsor a tender, you do a growth round, you do an IPO round, and you can ladder your way up to 20% ownership. You have to be a mul…”
Miles Clements Mar 9, 2026 ▶ 32:14 "Cursor is Dead" is Total BS: Here is Why | Miles Clements · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 20, 2026 negative
Insight
Harry Stebbings: Multi-Stage VCs Obfuscate Rejections to Retain Optionality
“Especially when they're multi-stage funds, when there's absolutely no reason for them to ever kill optionality. Like, I want you to think that I'm amazing because in case you do inflate, I want you to come back.”
Harry Stebbings Jun 20, 2026 ▶ 54:51 Flexport CEO: Two Questions Every Founder Needs to Ask · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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