data center

also referred to as: data centers

41 statements across 24 episodes · 15 bullish · 10 bearish · 21 people on the record · first statement Feb 28, 2022 by Scott Dietzen · across every show →

Everything said about data center, oldest first

Feb 28, 2022 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Feb 2027
Flash memory will replace all mechanical storage in data centers
“I had come to the conclusion that Flash was going to replace all the mechanical storage in the data center.”
Scott Dietzen Feb 28, 2022 ▶ 4:26 20VC: 3 Biggest Mistakes Founders Make When Scaling, Management 101 on Trust Building, Morale Maintenance and Hiring & What We Can Learn About Parenting From Nature Programs with Scott Dietzen
May 29, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Schroepfer: Meta built 10 million square feet of data centers in 10 years
“Built ten million square feet of data center in, like, less than 10 years, and they, they're going on trajectories above that.”
Mike Schroepfer May 29, 2024 ▶ 53:00 Mike Schroepfer: Former Meta CTO on "Why The Best Leaders are Like Music Conductors" | E1158 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cahn: Real estate investors supply significant capital for AI data centers
“A lot of the capital going to fund data centers comes from real estate developers. Real estate investors”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 43:34 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Cahn: DPR is the Largest General Contractor for Data Centers
“DPR is the biggest general contractor in building data centers.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 17:00 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Cahn: Amazon Announced $50 Billion in New Data Centers
“Amazon in the last six months has announced fifty billion dollars of new data centers, right?”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 16:33 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Cahn: Labor is the Single Largest Cost in Data Centers
“I mean, labor is the single biggest cost in data centers.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 17:13 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Cahn: No AI Lab Will Train Frontier Models in the Same Data Center Twice
“No one's ever going to train a frontier model on the same data center twice, because by the time you've trained it, the GPUs will be outdated, and the data center will be too small.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 14:57 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Cahn: Separate Data Center and AI Model Teams Will Fail as Models Scale
“I think the vertical integration piece is gonna matter in the sense of you can't have a separate team running the data center and a separate team building the model. That is just not gonna work as these models get bigger and bigger. You need to deeply couple t…”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 23:12 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024
Assertion Supported
Cahn: AI Data Centers Take Two Years and $2 Billion to Build
“Data centers take about two years to build. You are going to build, and it costs about two billion dollars per data center.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 13:05 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 5, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Cahn: Data Centers Are the Most Important Asset in AI
“The bigger these models get, the more that scaling laws become the dominant thing, and so I think there's a really good argument to be made that basically the data center is the most important asset.”
David Cahn Aug 5, 2024 ▶ 0:08 David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 19, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Gomez: Cohere won't build data centers because cloud pricing is cheaper
“We're an economically rational actor, and so if it's cheaper for us to build out our own data centers, we'll go do that. We've run the numbers, and we feel confident that the price we're getting from our providers makes that not a really attractive path.”
Aidan Gomez Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 19:09 Aidan Gomez: What No One Understands About Foundation Models | E1191 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kant: Data Centers Built in Two Years Will Look Radically Different
“The data centers from, you know, two years ago versus the data centers in terms of size and power requirement that we're going to see in the next two years look radically different, not just because the scale of number of servers and nodes that we're interconn…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 35:24 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 16, 2024 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Hoffman: Data centers and AI consume single-digit percentages of global power
“Data centers, I think, are something like, it's some single digit percentage of all power consumption. Like three, something, so it's not very big. And then AI within data centers is like, you know, a single digit percentage of that. So currently AI is not acc…”
Reid Hoffman Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 25:13 Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn & Paypal Founder: Trump Administration, Elon Musk and DOGE | E1239 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Ross: Worldwide data center capacity is currently 15 gigawatts
“I am aware of about 20 gigawatts of power that people want to make available for data centers now. Right now there's about 15 gigawatts of data centers worldwide, so more than double the current capacity.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 33:16 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Assertion Contradicted
Ross: Industrial generators currently face a 90-month lead time
“There's a 90 month lead time on generators right now”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 35:06 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Assertion Supported
Ross: Edge computing is less energy efficient than data center compute
“They think that edge computing is lower energy. Actually, edge computing is less energy efficient than computing in the data center.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 20:22 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: Most newly announced speculative data center projects will never be built
“Most of these projects will never be developed.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 35:57 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 24, 2025 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2025
Morin: AI chip oversupply will lead to GPUs selling at 30% value
“I very much worry there will be an oversupply of these chips. The problem is, is that, you know, remember, the chips are the collateral. So, you know, somewhere, you know, in the US or whatever, there's going to be a data center with like a thousand GPUs that …”
Steeve Morin Feb 24, 2025 ▶ 24:31 Steeve Morin: Why Google Will Win the AI Arms Race & OpenAI Will Not | E1262 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 10, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: Data center demand may slow within four years
“I would put that bet at least on the table as being plausible at some point in time in the next three or four years that people find they're ahead of their investment schedules and just want to slow down.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 25:20 Daniel Gross and Nat Friedman: Acquired by Meta | Microsoft Layoff 9000 People | OpenAI's Bombshell · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 8, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
ElevenLabs built its own data centers for training AI models
“So we've built our own data centers for training, and then for inference, we of course use some of our great partners across across the traditional.”
Mati Staniszewski Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 48:48 ElevenLabs CEO/Co-Founder, Mati Staniszewski:The Untold Story of Europe’s Fastest Growing AI Startup · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 8, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Staniszewski: Owning data centers breaks even within two years versus renting compute
“In our case, it was if we assume we continue training the models that the way we want to. So very continuously, a lot of those models. Then second for the data transfers, and as we think about continuously bringing more data we will likely on a two year horizo…”
Mati Staniszewski Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 49:06 ElevenLabs CEO/Co-Founder, Mati Staniszewski:The Untold Story of Europe’s Fastest Growing AI Startup · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 6, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Feldman: Cerebras added five US data centers in 2025
“We added five this year in the US to add more data centers, and we have more big ideas.”
Andrew Feldman Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 2:40 Cerebras CEO, Andrew Feldman on Why Raise $1BN and Delay the IPO & Why NVIDIA’s Worried About Growth · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 23, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2030
Stebbings: Productive capital will not leave AI for three years
“Like we will not have productive capital leave AI and data centers for more than three years. And so everyone that's like, oh, we're in an AI bubble, we're in an AI bubble and it's going to bust. I don't think so, because if we're in a bubble and you're antici…”
Harry Stebbings Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 57:05 Why VC Today is Worse than 2021 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2025 negative
Prediction Held up
David Cahn: AI industry is at the start of data center construction delays
“One of the predictions I made last year, in addition to saying it was going to be the year of the data center in 20, 25, I said, Hey, we're going to have these construction delays. We're going to have issues now in building out these data centers. And the info…”
David Cahn Oct 27, 2025 ▶ 4:22 Sequoia Partner, David Cahn on Who Wins in AI, Defence & The New $0–$100M Playbook · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 27, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Cahn: Microsoft walked away from two data centers in early 2025
“Microsoft walked away from two data centers and it sent a message to the market like, hey, we're not stepping up.”
David Cahn Oct 27, 2025 ▶ 23:26 Sequoia Partner, David Cahn on Who Wins in AI, Defence & The New $0–$100M Playbook · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 17, 2025
Assertion Supported
Andrew Ng: AI inference demand currently exceeds global hardware and power capacity
“I find that many companies have, really have excess demand, which is a very rare problem to have, but so many people want more OM inference, want more tokens generated, and we just don't have the semiconductors and data centers and electricity to meet the dema…”
Andrew Ng Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 3:02 AI Fund’s GP, Andrew Ng: LLMs as the Next Geopolitical Weapon & Do Margins Still Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 17, 2025 neutral
Insight
Andrew Ng: High capital efficiency hinders deploying billions in AI applications
“But the dilemma is you could do it in a very capital efficient way. So if someone wants to say, I want to put ten billion dollars to work. You know, yes, you can build ten billion dollars worth of data centers. We know how to spend that money. But how do you s…”
Andrew Ng Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 32:08 AI Fund’s GP, Andrew Ng: LLMs as the Next Geopolitical Weapon & Do Margins Still Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 5, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Lemkin: Governments should guarantee 0% financing for AI data centers
“We have to guarantee zero percent financing for all data centers. We'll get all our money back.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 0:44 The SaaS Massacre: Public Market Collapse |Microsoft Lost $360B & NVIDIA’s $100B Dispute with OpenAI
Feb 16, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Stebbings: Data centers are today's most under-invested technology category
“Data center is the one that's the most under-invested categories today. When you look at inference needing to run for 24 hours a day for most of the knowledge worker population, and it running for like one percent of knowledge worker population today, I'm like…”
Harry Stebbings Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 58:35 Klarna CEO: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 16, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Siemiatkowski: AI enterprise compression could significantly reduce demand for NVIDIA chips
“Well, that would mean that you would leave mean significant, you would need significantly less.”
Sebastian Siemiatkowski Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 1:05:11 Klarna CEO: SaaS is Dead: Why Systems of Record Will Die in an Agentic World · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 12, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Corporate AI Data Center Budgets Will Come From Cutting Junior Roles
“I think getting rid of juniors is where we get budget for these data centers, in part.”
Jason Lemkin Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 33:02 Anthropic vs The Pentagon: Who Wins? | The Data Center Arms Race | The Ultimate Stock Picks · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 26, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Feldman claims modern AI data centers do not require massive water consumption
“Our data centers don't need to use a ton of water. They can recycle it. You can have a closed loop.”
Andrew Feldman May 26, 2026 ▶ 32:22 Cerebras CEO on the Future of Data Centres, Token Costs & Memory | Should US Companies Sell to China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 13, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinberg: US states permitting data centers will prosper economically
“There won't be as many jobs that get created there. Whereas the states that do allow for data centers to be good, to be created, you know, people will prosper. They're gonna have great jobs. They'll, you know, see the downstream benefits of it.”
Matan Grinberg Jun 13, 2026 ▶ 1:12:19 OpenAI vs Anthropic vs Open-Source | Token Maxing, AI Hangovers & The Coming ROI Reckoning · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 15, 2026
Opinion
China builds AI data centers faster with zero permitting constraints
“And one advantage they have is they can actually build data centers A lot faster. Power is not a problem. Permits are not a problem. People are not a problem. Labor is not a problem. Expertise is not a problem.”
Aravind Srinivas Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 54:37 Perplexity CEO: Micron Will Be More Valuable Than Meta & How Export Controls Helped Not Hurt China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 29, 2026 negative
Opinion
Shridhar: Space-Based Solar Power for Data Centers Is Currently Impractical
“You can squeeze water out of a rock, but why? There are better ways to do that right now on Earth.”
K.R. Shridhar Jun 29, 2026 ▶ 45:12 Bloom Energy CEO: Why We Aren’t in an AI Capex Bubble | Energy Sovereignty & The Future of Power · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 29, 2026
Assertion Supported
Shridhar: Greenfield Data Center Construction Takes a Minimum of 12-18 Months
“So it takes 12 to 18 months minimum to build something like that.”
K.R. Shridhar Jun 29, 2026 ▶ 32:32 Bloom Energy CEO: Why We Aren’t in an AI Capex Bubble | Energy Sovereignty & The Future of Power · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 29, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shridhar: Bloom Energy Deploys Power Faster Than Data Center Construction Timelines
“We can stand up that power faster than they can build a data center.”
K.R. Shridhar Jun 29, 2026 ▶ 32:37 Bloom Energy CEO: Why We Aren’t in an AI Capex Bubble | Energy Sovereignty & The Future of Power · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Optical chips will solve data center energy drain
“You're going to see optic chips with which are very, very energy compliant. So when people talk about the data centers and the energy sucks, that's going to change.”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 1:16:19 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 29, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Reyes: OpenAI and Anthropic face existential risk from data center debt
“If you're open AI or you're anthropic, the hundreds of billions in free cash flow that you need in order to pay back the debt that you're taking on in order to accommodate these data center build outs in order to get the next big training run, it's totally exi…”
Eno Reyes Aug 29, 2026 ▶ 52:54 Should American Enterprises Work With Open-Source Chinese Models? | Only 10% of Neo-labs survive
Sep 5, 2026
Insight
Weitzman: The biggest cost of delayed GPUs is unutilized data center rent
“The most expensive part of a delivery of a GPU is if it's late, I'm still paying rent for that data center space.”
Cliff Weitzman Sep 5, 2026 ▶ 15:21 How to Build Your Own Data Center & Why Every Startup Should Do It
Sep 5, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Weitzman: Most data centers lack approved liquid cooling for NVIDIA Rubin chips
“Rubens are liquid cooled. But most of these data centers don't have liquid cooling installations already approved”
Cliff Weitzman Sep 5, 2026 ▶ 16:22 How to Build Your Own Data Center & Why Every Startup Should Do It
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