Sep 26, 2018 · 52m · y-combinator

How to Sell by Tyler Bosmeny · Y Combinator

Tyler Bosmeny · 39m spoken
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In this Y Combinator Startup School lecture, Clever CEO Tyler Bosmeny provides early-stage startup founders with a practical, step-by-step framework for B2B sales, covering founder-led selling, navigating the enterprise sales funnel, and aligning sales strategy with pricing models.

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05100:0015:0030:0045:000:00–2:33 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Startup School Midpoint Announcements and Metrics Warning Host gives routine housekeeping announcements and delivers advice on avoiding vanity metrics at Startup School before introducing Tyler Bosmeny.2:33–6:27 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Lecture Title Slide: How to Sell Tyler begins his monologue detailing his background in mathematics and how he unexpectedly learned sales at the college newspaper and early startups.6:27–10:28 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Debunking Sales Myths and Embracing Founder-Led Sales Tyler reframes conventional stereotypes about sales, rejecting the smooth Don Draper trope and arguing founders are naturally well-positioned to sell.10:28–20:56 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Overview of the Enterprise Sales Funnel Tyler breaks down the enterprise funnel, explaining how the 2.5% innovator adoption curve requires heavy prospecting via networks, niche conferences, and concise cold emails.20:56–28:26 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Stage 2 Conversations: Active Listening and Persistent Follow-Up Tyler emphasizes active listening during customer calls and demonstrates why persistent follow-up is necessary rather than rude.28:26–34:52 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Stage 3 Closing: Navigating Legal Redlines, Custom Features, and Free Trials Tyler warns against common closing mistakes including protracted legal redlining, accommodating one-off custom feature requests, and granting open-ended free trials.34:52–38:18 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Matching Sales Motion to Pricing and Conclusion Tyler connects pricing strategy directly to sales motion using Christoph Janz's framework before wrapping up his lecture.38:18–52:12 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Audience Q&A on Sales Strategy, Pricing, and Hiring Tyler answers student questions on email cadence, pricing iteration, navigating case study concerns, and hiring renaissance sales reps.0:00–2:33 · Guest teaching 0/10 Startup School Midpoint Announcements and Metrics Warning Host gives routine housekeeping announcements and delivers advice on avoiding vanity metrics at Startup School before introducing Tyler Bosmeny.2:33–6:27 · Guest teaching 3/10 Lecture Title Slide: How to Sell Tyler begins his monologue detailing his background in mathematics and how he unexpectedly learned sales at the college newspaper and early startups.6:27–10:28 · Guest teaching 4/10 Debunking Sales Myths and Embracing Founder-Led Sales Tyler reframes conventional stereotypes about sales, rejecting the smooth Don Draper trope and arguing founders are naturally well-positioned to sell.10:28–20:56 · Guest teaching 5/10 Overview of the Enterprise Sales Funnel Tyler breaks down the enterprise funnel, explaining how the 2.5% innovator adoption curve requires heavy prospecting via networks, niche conferences, and concise cold emails.20:56–28:26 · Guest teaching 5/10 Stage 2 Conversations: Active Listening and Persistent Follow-Up Tyler emphasizes active listening during customer calls and demonstrates why persistent follow-up is necessary rather than rude.28:26–34:52 · Guest teaching 6/10 Stage 3 Closing: Navigating Legal Redlines, Custom Features, and Free Trials Tyler warns against common closing mistakes including protracted legal redlining, accommodating one-off custom feature requests, and granting open-ended free trials.34:52–38:18 · Guest teaching 5/10 Matching Sales Motion to Pricing and Conclusion Tyler connects pricing strategy directly to sales motion using Christoph Janz's framework before wrapping up his lecture.38:18–52:12 · Guest teaching 5/10 Audience Q&A on Sales Strategy, Pricing, and Hiring Tyler answers student questions on email cadence, pricing iteration, navigating case study concerns, and hiring renaissance sales reps.0:00–2:33 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Startup School Midpoint Announcements and Metrics Warning Host gives routine housekeeping announcements and delivers advice on avoiding vanity metrics at Startup School before introducing Tyler Bosmeny.2:33–6:27 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Lecture Title Slide: How to Sell Tyler begins his monologue detailing his background in mathematics and how he unexpectedly learned sales at the college newspaper and early startups.6:27–10:28 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Debunking Sales Myths and Embracing Founder-Led Sales Tyler reframes conventional stereotypes about sales, rejecting the smooth Don Draper trope and arguing founders are naturally well-positioned to sell.10:28–20:56 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Overview of the Enterprise Sales Funnel Tyler breaks down the enterprise funnel, explaining how the 2.5% innovator adoption curve requires heavy prospecting via networks, niche conferences, and concise cold emails.20:56–28:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Stage 2 Conversations: Active Listening and Persistent Follow-Up Tyler emphasizes active listening during customer calls and demonstrates why persistent follow-up is necessary rather than rude.28:26–34:52 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Stage 3 Closing: Navigating Legal Redlines, Custom Features, and Free Trials Tyler warns against common closing mistakes including protracted legal redlining, accommodating one-off custom feature requests, and granting open-ended free trials.34:52–38:18 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Matching Sales Motion to Pricing and Conclusion Tyler connects pricing strategy directly to sales motion using Christoph Janz's framework before wrapping up his lecture.38:18–52:12 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Audience Q&A on Sales Strategy, Pricing, and Hiring Tyler answers student questions on email cadence, pricing iteration, navigating case study concerns, and hiring renaissance sales reps.0:00–2:33 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Startup School Midpoint Announcements and Metrics Warning Host gives routine housekeeping announcements and delivers advice on avoiding vanity metrics at Startup School before introducing Tyler Bosmeny.2:33–6:27 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Lecture Title Slide: How to Sell Tyler begins his monologue detailing his background in mathematics and how he unexpectedly learned sales at the college newspaper and early startups.6:27–10:28 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Debunking Sales Myths and Embracing Founder-Led Sales Tyler reframes conventional stereotypes about sales, rejecting the smooth Don Draper trope and arguing founders are naturally well-positioned to sell.10:28–20:56 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Overview of the Enterprise Sales Funnel Tyler breaks down the enterprise funnel, explaining how the 2.5% innovator adoption curve requires heavy prospecting via networks, niche conferences, and concise cold emails.20:56–28:26 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Stage 2 Conversations: Active Listening and Persistent Follow-Up Tyler emphasizes active listening during customer calls and demonstrates why persistent follow-up is necessary rather than rude.28:26–34:52 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Stage 3 Closing: Navigating Legal Redlines, Custom Features, and Free Trials Tyler warns against common closing mistakes including protracted legal redlining, accommodating one-off custom feature requests, and granting open-ended free trials.34:52–38:18 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Matching Sales Motion to Pricing and Conclusion Tyler connects pricing strategy directly to sales motion using Christoph Janz's framework before wrapping up his lecture.38:18–52:12 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Audience Q&A on Sales Strategy, Pricing, and Hiring Tyler answers student questions on email cadence, pricing iteration, navigating case study concerns, and hiring renaissance sales reps.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 32:30 Rejecting free trials in early enterprise sales

Tyler firmly rejects standard industry free trial practices, arguing startups need immediate validation and commitment rather than delayed revenue.

Hardest push from the partners ▶ 1:18 Host pushes back against founder vanity metrics

The Startup School host challenges attendees directly, warning them against submitting fabricated or uninformative metrics during weekly updates.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 21:25 Tyler instructs founders on the 70/30 listening ratio

Tyler breaks down the core mechanic of successful sales, explaining why enthusiastic founders fail by talking too much rather than letting the prospect describe their problems.

The partners hold their own ▶ 1:18 Host defines authentic progress milestones

The host exercises authority over startup development principles by defining what constitutes genuine milestones versus deceptive vanity tracking.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe partners as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe partners pushing backWhy
Startup School Midpoint Announcements and Metrics Warning 0000 Host gives routine housekeeping announcements and delivers advice on avoiding vanity metrics at Startup School before introducing Tyler Bosmeny.
Lecture Title Slide: How to Sell 0300 Tyler begins his monologue detailing his background in mathematics and how he unexpectedly learned sales at the college newspaper and early startups.
Debunking Sales Myths and Embracing Founder-Led Sales 0410 Tyler reframes conventional stereotypes about sales, rejecting the smooth Don Draper trope and arguing founders are naturally well-positioned to sell.
Overview of the Enterprise Sales Funnel 0510 Tyler breaks down the enterprise funnel, explaining how the 2.5% innovator adoption curve requires heavy prospecting via networks, niche conferences, and concise cold emails.
Stage 2 Conversations: Active Listening and Persistent Follow-Up 0510 Tyler emphasizes active listening during customer calls and demonstrates why persistent follow-up is necessary rather than rude.
Stage 3 Closing: Navigating Legal Redlines, Custom Features, and Free Trials 0620 Tyler warns against common closing mistakes including protracted legal redlining, accommodating one-off custom feature requests, and granting open-ended free trials.
Matching Sales Motion to Pricing and Conclusion 0500 Tyler connects pricing strategy directly to sales motion using Christoph Janz's framework before wrapping up his lecture.
Audience Q&A on Sales Strategy, Pricing, and Hiring 0510 Tyler answers student questions on email cadence, pricing iteration, navigating case study concerns, and hiring renaissance sales reps.

Statements from this episode (14)

Assertion Supported
Bosmeny: Over half of US schools use Clever
“And today, over half the schools in America use Clevver.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 5:50
Insight
Bosmeny: Founder passion and domain expertise make them highly effective salespeople
“As founders, you also have some very unique advantages that will, that can make you actually incredibly powerful at sales and very potent. And the two advantages that I've noticed, one, ah, is just your passion. You are more passionate about the product that y…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 8:46
Disclosure
Tyler Bosmeny sold Clever full-time before the product was even built
“My other two co-founders were focused on building the product and implementing the product, and I, you know, we decided this was important enough that I decided I was gonna peel off and spend almost a hundred percent of my time selling this product, starting f…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 10:01
Insight
Bosmeny: Early-stage sales should be owned by a founder full-time
“Think about who in your company is really owning this, and it should probably be a founder, and it should probably be as much of a full-time job as you can spare.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 10:17
Insight
Bosmeny: Only 2.5% of companies will buy from an unproven startup
“The innovators segment is just 2.5% of the population. That means 2.5% of companies will even consider buying a product from a startup that is unproven with no revenue.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 12:32
Opinion
Bosmeny: Conferences are the most underrated channel in startup sales
“I think conferences are the most underrated aspect of sales and the, and one of the least understood aspects of sales.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 15:02
Disclosure
Bosmeny: Clever pre-books entire conference days in 30-minute increments
“My goal when I go to a conference or when anyone from Clever goes to a conference is that we have our entire days booked up in 30 minute increments because we've done so much effort in advance of the conferences trying to line everything up, getting these meet…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 17:53
Insight
Bosmeny: Top Salespeople Listen 70% of the Time on Calls
“What you'll naturally do is, ah, talk for 70% of the time on the first call, and, you know, maybe leave 30% of space for the other person. The best salespeople in the world, when I've seen them in action, It's the opposite. They're listening 70% of the time, a…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 23:12
Insight
Bosmeny: Founders Must Drive Sales Conversations to Fast Yes or No
“There's a lot of value to driving conversations to a yes or no quickly. Because no's, you can move on and get, and start filling the pipeline with other people that could become yes's.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 27:56
Insight
Bosmeny: Prospects demanding one custom feature are usually passing
“And they come to you and they say, hey, actually I want to buy, but only, only if you had this one other feature would I buy. It sounds so promising. You're so close. They just want one more thing. Sure, you can build that thing. It wouldn't be that hard. Unfo…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 31:18
Insight
Bosmeny: Free trials provide startups no commitment, validation, or revenue
“Folks, when you are starting your company and when you are out there trying to make your startup work, you need things like commitment. You need validation. You need revenue. And guess what? A free trial doesn't get you any of those things.”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 33:22
Insight
Bosmeny: High-Touch Sales Is Unsustainable for Low-Priced Products
“Because if you're, the way you're selling your product today is you're flying to people, you're meeting them at conferences, you're doing everything. I touched, you know, I described this very kind of high touch, high energy sales process. But your customers a…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 36:30
Insight
Bosmeny: Product-market fit is discovered through customer yeses, not noes
“I don't think you discover product market fit from the no's. I think you only discover it from the yes's. So, I think when you get no's, there's a lot of reasons people could give, be giving you no's, and I wouldn't even necessarily believe, you know, the reas…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 40:54
Insight
Bosmeny: Founders should not hire salespeople before doing sales themselves
“First of all, you have no business hiring salespeople until you've done a lot of sales on your own. And the reason is not just, you know, because of what I was saying earlier about how, you know, good you are. It's because you won't even know what kind of peop…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 49:54
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