Aug 1, 2019 · 23m · y-combinator

Adora Cheung - How to Set KPIs and Goals · Y Combinator

Adora Cheung · 20m spoken
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In this Y Combinator lecture, Adora Cheung provides early-stage startup founders with a practical framework for defining Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) and establishing weekly growth targets. She details how selecting a primary metric, supported by targeted secondary metrics and disciplined weekly tracking, drives rapid iteration and long-term business success.

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The partners as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 6.7 Guest disagreement 1.2 The partners pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:0020:000:37–5:45 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Why Tracking KPIs Matters Adora Cheung delivers a solo lecture breaking down why tracking a single primary KPI matters and dismantles vanity metrics like email signups or monthly active users (MAU). Host scores are zero because this is a solo lecture format without host intervention.5:45–11:14 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Revenue vs. Active Users and Special Cases Adora explains the difference between revenue and active user metrics, cautioning founders against the trap of offering products for free without validating willingness to pay. She details how marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber define primary metrics and addresses exceptions like biotech.11:14–13:57 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Selecting Complementary Secondary Metrics Adora advises founders against relying solely on a single 'North Star' metric without secondary metrics like retention, warning against analysis paralysis while tracking three to five complementary indicators.13:57–17:43 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Defining Weekly Growth Rate Goals Adora details benchmarks for weekly growth rates drawing from Paul Graham's essays and YC batch data, showing how 5-10% weekly growth compounds dramatically over time compared to 1% growth.17:43–20:45 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Guidelines and Considerations for Growth Goals Adora outlines principles for goal setting, specifically warning against using paid marketing early on which she categorizes as cheating growth rather than validating product demand.20:45–22:26 · The partners as informed peer 0/10 Tracking Progress and Handling Real-World Growth Adora concludes by providing tactical advice on visualizing growth trajectories and utilizing weekly targets to diagnose underlying startup issues.0:37–5:45 · Guest teaching 7/10 Why Tracking KPIs Matters Adora Cheung delivers a solo lecture breaking down why tracking a single primary KPI matters and dismantles vanity metrics like email signups or monthly active users (MAU). Host scores are zero because this is a solo lecture format without host intervention.5:45–11:14 · Guest teaching 7/10 Revenue vs. Active Users and Special Cases Adora explains the difference between revenue and active user metrics, cautioning founders against the trap of offering products for free without validating willingness to pay. She details how marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber define primary metrics and addresses exceptions like biotech.11:14–13:57 · Guest teaching 6/10 Selecting Complementary Secondary Metrics Adora advises founders against relying solely on a single 'North Star' metric without secondary metrics like retention, warning against analysis paralysis while tracking three to five complementary indicators.13:57–17:43 · Guest teaching 7/10 Defining Weekly Growth Rate Goals Adora details benchmarks for weekly growth rates drawing from Paul Graham's essays and YC batch data, showing how 5-10% weekly growth compounds dramatically over time compared to 1% growth.17:43–20:45 · Guest teaching 7/10 Guidelines and Considerations for Growth Goals Adora outlines principles for goal setting, specifically warning against using paid marketing early on which she categorizes as cheating growth rather than validating product demand.20:45–22:26 · Guest teaching 6/10 Tracking Progress and Handling Real-World Growth Adora concludes by providing tactical advice on visualizing growth trajectories and utilizing weekly targets to diagnose underlying startup issues.0:37–5:45 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Why Tracking KPIs Matters Adora Cheung delivers a solo lecture breaking down why tracking a single primary KPI matters and dismantles vanity metrics like email signups or monthly active users (MAU). Host scores are zero because this is a solo lecture format without host intervention.5:45–11:14 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Revenue vs. Active Users and Special Cases Adora explains the difference between revenue and active user metrics, cautioning founders against the trap of offering products for free without validating willingness to pay. She details how marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber define primary metrics and addresses exceptions like biotech.11:14–13:57 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Selecting Complementary Secondary Metrics Adora advises founders against relying solely on a single 'North Star' metric without secondary metrics like retention, warning against analysis paralysis while tracking three to five complementary indicators.13:57–17:43 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Defining Weekly Growth Rate Goals Adora details benchmarks for weekly growth rates drawing from Paul Graham's essays and YC batch data, showing how 5-10% weekly growth compounds dramatically over time compared to 1% growth.17:43–20:45 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Guidelines and Considerations for Growth Goals Adora outlines principles for goal setting, specifically warning against using paid marketing early on which she categorizes as cheating growth rather than validating product demand.20:45–22:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Tracking Progress and Handling Real-World Growth Adora concludes by providing tactical advice on visualizing growth trajectories and utilizing weekly targets to diagnose underlying startup issues.0:37–5:45 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Why Tracking KPIs Matters Adora Cheung delivers a solo lecture breaking down why tracking a single primary KPI matters and dismantles vanity metrics like email signups or monthly active users (MAU). Host scores are zero because this is a solo lecture format without host intervention.5:45–11:14 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Revenue vs. Active Users and Special Cases Adora explains the difference between revenue and active user metrics, cautioning founders against the trap of offering products for free without validating willingness to pay. She details how marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber define primary metrics and addresses exceptions like biotech.11:14–13:57 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Selecting Complementary Secondary Metrics Adora advises founders against relying solely on a single 'North Star' metric without secondary metrics like retention, warning against analysis paralysis while tracking three to five complementary indicators.13:57–17:43 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Defining Weekly Growth Rate Goals Adora details benchmarks for weekly growth rates drawing from Paul Graham's essays and YC batch data, showing how 5-10% weekly growth compounds dramatically over time compared to 1% growth.17:43–20:45 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Guidelines and Considerations for Growth Goals Adora outlines principles for goal setting, specifically warning against using paid marketing early on which she categorizes as cheating growth rather than validating product demand.20:45–22:26 · The partners pushing back 0/10 Tracking Progress and Handling Real-World Growth Adora concludes by providing tactical advice on visualizing growth trajectories and utilizing weekly targets to diagnose underlying startup issues.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:55 Condemning early paid marketing

Adora forcefully dismisses paid user acquisition for early-stage startups, calling it 'cheating growth' that masks real product problems.

Hardest push from the partners ▶ 9:17 No host pushback present

The presentation is a solo lecture format without host interventions, resulting in zero host pushback.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:05 Dismantling the free feedback illusion

Adora directly educates founders on why free users give misleading feedback compared to paying customers, urging founders to demand payment immediately.

The partners hold their own ▶ 9:17 No host expertise demonstration

There is no host involvement or rebuttal during this solo instructional lecture.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe partners as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe partners pushing backWhy
Why Tracking KPIs Matters 0710 Adora Cheung delivers a solo lecture breaking down why tracking a single primary KPI matters and dismantles vanity metrics like email signups or monthly active users (MAU). Host scores are zero because this is a solo lecture format without host intervention.
Revenue vs. Active Users and Special Cases 0710 Adora explains the difference between revenue and active user metrics, cautioning founders against the trap of offering products for free without validating willingness to pay. She details how marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber define primary metrics and addresses exceptions like biotech.
Selecting Complementary Secondary Metrics 0610 Adora advises founders against relying solely on a single 'North Star' metric without secondary metrics like retention, warning against analysis paralysis while tracking three to five complementary indicators.
Defining Weekly Growth Rate Goals 0710 Adora details benchmarks for weekly growth rates drawing from Paul Graham's essays and YC batch data, showing how 5-10% weekly growth compounds dramatically over time compared to 1% growth.
Guidelines and Considerations for Growth Goals 0720 Adora outlines principles for goal setting, specifically warning against using paid marketing early on which she categorizes as cheating growth rather than validating product demand.
Tracking Progress and Handling Real-World Growth 0610 Adora concludes by providing tactical advice on visualizing growth trajectories and utilizing weekly targets to diagnose underlying startup issues.

Statements from this episode (12)

Insight
Adora Cheung: Tracking one primary metric outweighs juggling multiple variables
“If there's a way to get 90% of the job done with just one variable, that's better than having a bunch of variables that gets, Let's say, 91% of the job done. In this case, the job to get done is quickly determining how well your startup is doing.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 2:09
Insight
Adora Cheung: Revenue is always the best primary metric for startups
“Revenue is always the best metric. I pay you a hundred dollars to use your product, your software. I must at least value that a hundred dollars. Active users, ah, using the product once a week, or, ah, once a day, we call that weekly active user or daily activ…”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 2:46
Insight
Adora Cheung: Monthly active users is a poor early-stage startup metric
“A lot of people pick MAU, monthly active user but this is, but this is usually not a great metric because it takes time to understand the impact of movement especially in a startup this early as in your startup. And so many things can happen within a month. An…”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 5:03
Insight
Adora Cheung: Free user feedback is a trap for early-stage startups
“That's a trap because free users will give you different types of feedback The users who are actually paying you. Paid users are just more serious about the product and hopefully will be more serious about giving you feedback.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 6:30
Insight
Adora Cheung: Marketplaces must measure metrics where both sides receive value
“Well, you pick a value that actually represents them both getting value. So in Airbnb's case, it would be nights booked, right?”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 8:58
Opinion
Adora Cheung: The 'north star metric' concept misleads early-stage founders
“People have referred to the primary metric as a north star metric, and I actually don't like the term north star because it kind of people have interpreted it as something you just focus on this one metric and then ignore everything else.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 11:18
Insight
Adora Cheung: No single metric tells 100% of a startup's story
“There's no metric that actually tells a story that tells a hundred percent of the story, maybe 90%, but not a hundred percent. And so sometimes founders fool themselves by literally only tracking their primary metric and nothing else.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 11:33
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Adora Cheung: Top YC Demo Day startups grow 5% to 10% weekly
“So I actually went back and I looked at the good startups who pitched in recent YC demo days. So these, if you think about these startups, they were three months prior, they were all in the phase that you are probably in today. And it turns out the growth rate…”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 15:40
Insight
Adora Cheung: 1% weekly growth means a startup lacks billion-dollar potential
“If you only manage one percent weekly growth, it's a sign you haven't figured out things yet. It doesn't mean that you have a horrible business. You can run a great small profitable business growing one percent week over week, but it's not a good sign that you…”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 16:55
Insight
Adora Cheung: Good enterprise startups compress sales cycles from months to days
“Like good enterprise startups that time to sale goes from months to hopefully days if not hours.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 19:02
Insight
Adora Cheung: Acquiring early users through paid channels is cheating growth
“I think in the early days using paid users is actually cheating growth and you should avoid it as much as possible.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 19:33
Assertion Supported
Adora Cheung: Early Airbnb founders fixated entirely on missed growth targets
“This is in fact what the Airbnb founders did in the beginning. And if they hit the numbers, great. Ah, if they did not, then that's all they would talk about.”
Adora Cheung Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 21:08
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