Hilton Gisenau, CEO of ChitChattr, explains the psychological and structural barriers to monetizing software in enterprise app stores compared to consumer marketplaces.
“In the B to B marketplace, business to business store marketplace, the dynamics are surprisingly different. You know, there might be an app that I kind of like, On, on, let's say the, you know, my fruity device and I'm happy to pay the 10 dollars a month for it, but there might be an app that's great in the team's store that really suits my team and really helps us with productivity, but because it's something that I kind of perceive as for work in my mind, the economics and the purchasing decision becomes quite different. So it might be that, let's say, you know, I'd happily pay 10 dollars to do something on, in my personal capacity, but there's no way I'm going to pay Money. Albeit, let's say five dollars as an example. You know, there's no way I'm going to pay money for something that I perceive as a work tool, for instance. So, so that's the mental dynamics, I guess, of trying to deal with that challenge. But, you know, if it is a more expensive app and, you know, it's not something that that would make sense for you to pay personally, it's also important to understand that in the B to C space, you know, if I want something and it's for me, I'll simply pay for it. But if there's something in the corporate space, it's not me who's making that decision. You know, I'm somewhere in the food chain, so to speak, even, even potentially high up in that food chain, but purchasing is a different story. You know, there's purchase orders that need to be raised and justifications and business cases and et cetera.”
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