Jun 8, 2021 · 28m · we-live-to-build

The 'Culture of Yes' Secret Behind a $300K Angel Fund

Misty Rusk · 20m spoken Sean Weisbrot · 5m spoken
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Host Sean Weisbrot interviews Misty Rusk, Executive Director of the Free Enterprise Institute and founder of the San Diego Angel Conference, exploring how time-bound angel education, rigorous due diligence, and a collaborative 'Culture of Yes' empower founders and local investors to build high-impact companies.

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Sean as informed peer 3.4 Guest teaching 4.6 Guest disagreement 0.6 Sean pushing back 0.5
05100:0010:0020:000:00–2:02 · Sean as informed peer 0/10 Episode Preview: Angel Investing Fundamentals with Misty Rusk Introductory solo host monologue framing the episode topics and introducing the guest. Host-side scores are zeroed per monologue instructions.2:25–4:56 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Misty Rusk's Background and the San Diego Angel Conference Sean prompts Misty to share her background, and she explains her journey from cattle ranching to launching the San Diego Angel Conference. The dynamic is purely collaborative and informative.4:57–6:59 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Pioneering Time-Bound Angel Education and Local Community Building Misty recounts why traditional angel groups often stagnated in Corvallis and how structured deadlines created community investment momentum.6:59–9:02 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Accredited Investor Standards and Cultivating a 'Culture of Yes' Sean asks how investors are selected from an applicant pool, prompting Misty to explain SEC accreditation standards and the necessity of instilling a 'culture of yes'.9:03–12:51 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Foundational Angel Training: Go-to-Market Strategy and Deal Review Misty breaks down angel curriculum including go-to-market validation, fatal flaws like unassigned IP, and biotech timeline realities while Sean asks clarifying follow-ups.12:51–15:24 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 The Multi-Stage Screening Funnel and Due Diligence Progression Sean inquires about what distinguishes winning 3-minute pitches as Misty outlines the screening funnel progression from 30 companies down to final term sheet deliberations.15:24–19:19 · Sean as informed peer 5/10 The Due Diligence Process and Navigating Startup NDAs Sean challenges investor resistance to NDAs by pointing out founder vulnerability. Misty counters by explaining why groups cannot sign NDAs and details third-party technical audit workarounds.19:20–21:54 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Deal Terms, Term Sheets, and Post-Investment Governance Sean asks about the mechanics of deal finalization and what derails deals at the finish line. Misty explains valuation renegotiations when rounds oversubscribe.21:54–24:10 · Sean as informed peer 4/10 Fundraising Strategy: Coachability, Networks, and Investor Relations Misty passionately rejects standard advice like doing 90 pitches in 90 days, calling it ineffective while emphasizing relationship-building and local mentors.24:10–26:13 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 The Meaningful Impact of Angel Investing: A Life-Saving Serendipity Sean invites Misty to recount the serendipitous grant project she supported nearly two decades earlier that eventually developed a mechanical kidney helping her own daughter.26:14–27:05 · Sean as informed peer 3/10 Purpose-Driven Founders and Transformative Technologies Sean prompts Misty for concluding thoughts on what makes early-stage founders special before closing out the episode.0:00–2:02 · Guest teaching 0/10 Episode Preview: Angel Investing Fundamentals with Misty Rusk Introductory solo host monologue framing the episode topics and introducing the guest. Host-side scores are zeroed per monologue instructions.2:25–4:56 · Guest teaching 4/10 Misty Rusk's Background and the San Diego Angel Conference Sean prompts Misty to share her background, and she explains her journey from cattle ranching to launching the San Diego Angel Conference. The dynamic is purely collaborative and informative.4:57–6:59 · Guest teaching 5/10 Pioneering Time-Bound Angel Education and Local Community Building Misty recounts why traditional angel groups often stagnated in Corvallis and how structured deadlines created community investment momentum.6:59–9:02 · Guest teaching 5/10 Accredited Investor Standards and Cultivating a 'Culture of Yes' Sean asks how investors are selected from an applicant pool, prompting Misty to explain SEC accreditation standards and the necessity of instilling a 'culture of yes'.9:03–12:51 · Guest teaching 6/10 Foundational Angel Training: Go-to-Market Strategy and Deal Review Misty breaks down angel curriculum including go-to-market validation, fatal flaws like unassigned IP, and biotech timeline realities while Sean asks clarifying follow-ups.12:51–15:24 · Guest teaching 5/10 The Multi-Stage Screening Funnel and Due Diligence Progression Sean inquires about what distinguishes winning 3-minute pitches as Misty outlines the screening funnel progression from 30 companies down to final term sheet deliberations.15:24–19:19 · Guest teaching 7/10 The Due Diligence Process and Navigating Startup NDAs Sean challenges investor resistance to NDAs by pointing out founder vulnerability. Misty counters by explaining why groups cannot sign NDAs and details third-party technical audit workarounds.19:20–21:54 · Guest teaching 5/10 Deal Terms, Term Sheets, and Post-Investment Governance Sean asks about the mechanics of deal finalization and what derails deals at the finish line. Misty explains valuation renegotiations when rounds oversubscribe.21:54–24:10 · Guest teaching 6/10 Fundraising Strategy: Coachability, Networks, and Investor Relations Misty passionately rejects standard advice like doing 90 pitches in 90 days, calling it ineffective while emphasizing relationship-building and local mentors.24:10–26:13 · Guest teaching 4/10 The Meaningful Impact of Angel Investing: A Life-Saving Serendipity Sean invites Misty to recount the serendipitous grant project she supported nearly two decades earlier that eventually developed a mechanical kidney helping her own daughter.26:14–27:05 · Guest teaching 4/10 Purpose-Driven Founders and Transformative Technologies Sean prompts Misty for concluding thoughts on what makes early-stage founders special before closing out the episode.0:00–2:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Episode Preview: Angel Investing Fundamentals with Misty Rusk Introductory solo host monologue framing the episode topics and introducing the guest. Host-side scores are zeroed per monologue instructions.2:25–4:56 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Misty Rusk's Background and the San Diego Angel Conference Sean prompts Misty to share her background, and she explains her journey from cattle ranching to launching the San Diego Angel Conference. The dynamic is purely collaborative and informative.4:57–6:59 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Pioneering Time-Bound Angel Education and Local Community Building Misty recounts why traditional angel groups often stagnated in Corvallis and how structured deadlines created community investment momentum.6:59–9:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Accredited Investor Standards and Cultivating a 'Culture of Yes' Sean asks how investors are selected from an applicant pool, prompting Misty to explain SEC accreditation standards and the necessity of instilling a 'culture of yes'.9:03–12:51 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Foundational Angel Training: Go-to-Market Strategy and Deal Review Misty breaks down angel curriculum including go-to-market validation, fatal flaws like unassigned IP, and biotech timeline realities while Sean asks clarifying follow-ups.12:51–15:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Multi-Stage Screening Funnel and Due Diligence Progression Sean inquires about what distinguishes winning 3-minute pitches as Misty outlines the screening funnel progression from 30 companies down to final term sheet deliberations.15:24–19:19 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The Due Diligence Process and Navigating Startup NDAs Sean challenges investor resistance to NDAs by pointing out founder vulnerability. Misty counters by explaining why groups cannot sign NDAs and details third-party technical audit workarounds.19:20–21:54 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Deal Terms, Term Sheets, and Post-Investment Governance Sean asks about the mechanics of deal finalization and what derails deals at the finish line. Misty explains valuation renegotiations when rounds oversubscribe.21:54–24:10 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Fundraising Strategy: Coachability, Networks, and Investor Relations Misty passionately rejects standard advice like doing 90 pitches in 90 days, calling it ineffective while emphasizing relationship-building and local mentors.24:10–26:13 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Meaningful Impact of Angel Investing: A Life-Saving Serendipity Sean invites Misty to recount the serendipitous grant project she supported nearly two decades earlier that eventually developed a mechanical kidney helping her own daughter.26:14–27:05 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Purpose-Driven Founders and Transformative Technologies Sean prompts Misty for concluding thoughts on what makes early-stage founders special before closing out the episode.0:00–2:02 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Episode Preview: Angel Investing Fundamentals with Misty Rusk Introductory solo host monologue framing the episode topics and introducing the guest. Host-side scores are zeroed per monologue instructions.2:25–4:56 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Misty Rusk's Background and the San Diego Angel Conference Sean prompts Misty to share her background, and she explains her journey from cattle ranching to launching the San Diego Angel Conference. The dynamic is purely collaborative and informative.4:57–6:59 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Pioneering Time-Bound Angel Education and Local Community Building Misty recounts why traditional angel groups often stagnated in Corvallis and how structured deadlines created community investment momentum.6:59–9:02 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Accredited Investor Standards and Cultivating a 'Culture of Yes' Sean asks how investors are selected from an applicant pool, prompting Misty to explain SEC accreditation standards and the necessity of instilling a 'culture of yes'.9:03–12:51 · Sean pushing back 1/10 Foundational Angel Training: Go-to-Market Strategy and Deal Review Misty breaks down angel curriculum including go-to-market validation, fatal flaws like unassigned IP, and biotech timeline realities while Sean asks clarifying follow-ups.12:51–15:24 · Sean pushing back 0/10 The Multi-Stage Screening Funnel and Due Diligence Progression Sean inquires about what distinguishes winning 3-minute pitches as Misty outlines the screening funnel progression from 30 companies down to final term sheet deliberations.15:24–19:19 · Sean pushing back 4/10 The Due Diligence Process and Navigating Startup NDAs Sean challenges investor resistance to NDAs by pointing out founder vulnerability. Misty counters by explaining why groups cannot sign NDAs and details third-party technical audit workarounds.19:20–21:54 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Deal Terms, Term Sheets, and Post-Investment Governance Sean asks about the mechanics of deal finalization and what derails deals at the finish line. Misty explains valuation renegotiations when rounds oversubscribe.21:54–24:10 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Fundraising Strategy: Coachability, Networks, and Investor Relations Misty passionately rejects standard advice like doing 90 pitches in 90 days, calling it ineffective while emphasizing relationship-building and local mentors.24:10–26:13 · Sean pushing back 0/10 The Meaningful Impact of Angel Investing: A Life-Saving Serendipity Sean invites Misty to recount the serendipitous grant project she supported nearly two decades earlier that eventually developed a mechanical kidney helping her own daughter.26:14–27:05 · Sean pushing back 0/10 Purpose-Driven Founders and Transformative Technologies Sean prompts Misty for concluding thoughts on what makes early-stage founders special before closing out the episode.

speaking balance: gold is Sean, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Sean 89% · guest 11%0:00 · Sean 89% · guest 11%3:00 · Sean 8.8% · guest 91.2%3:00 · Sean 8.8% · guest 91.2%6:00 · Sean 10.1% · guest 89.9%6:00 · Sean 10.1% · guest 89.9%9:00 · Sean 22.6% · guest 77.4%9:00 · Sean 22.6% · guest 77.4%12:00 · Sean 15.4% · guest 84.6%12:00 · Sean 15.4% · guest 84.6%15:00 · Sean 11.2% · guest 88.8%15:00 · Sean 11.2% · guest 88.8%18:00 · Sean 15.6% · guest 84.4%18:00 · Sean 15.6% · guest 84.4%21:00 · Sean 7.9% · guest 92.1%21:00 · Sean 7.9% · guest 92.1%24:00 · Sean 17% · guest 83%24:00 · Sean 17% · guest 83%27:00 · Sean 77.2% · guest 22.8%27:00 · Sean 77.2% · guest 22.8%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 22:40 Dismissing the 90 pitches in 90 days dogma

Misty forcefully rejects traditional venture folklore, explicitly calling the common '90 pitches in 90 days' fundraising rule 'a load of crap'.

Hardest push from Sean ▶ 17:11 Host highlights founder vulnerability regarding NDAs

Sean pushes back on Misty's blanket rule against NDAs, noting that asking founders to expose all private corporate contracts without protection is genuinely scary.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 16:20 Explaining the legal and practical impossibility of angel NDAs

Misty firmly educates the host on why angel investors must never sign upfront NDAs and outlines practical industry workarounds such as independent third-party code reviews.

Sean holds their own ▶ 18:36 Host differentiates general disclosure from proprietary trade secrets

Sean demonstrates his venture awareness by defending founder caution, distinguishing between general corporate due diligence discovery and disclosing proprietary trade secrets.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicSean as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementSean pushing backWhy
Episode Preview: Angel Investing Fundamentals with Misty Rusk 0000 Introductory solo host monologue framing the episode topics and introducing the guest. Host-side scores are zeroed per monologue instructions.
Misty Rusk's Background and the San Diego Angel Conference 3400 Sean prompts Misty to share her background, and she explains her journey from cattle ranching to launching the San Diego Angel Conference. The dynamic is purely collaborative and informative.
Pioneering Time-Bound Angel Education and Local Community Building 3500 Misty recounts why traditional angel groups often stagnated in Corvallis and how structured deadlines created community investment momentum.
Accredited Investor Standards and Cultivating a 'Culture of Yes' 4510 Sean asks how investors are selected from an applicant pool, prompting Misty to explain SEC accreditation standards and the necessity of instilling a 'culture of yes'.
Foundational Angel Training: Go-to-Market Strategy and Deal Review 4611 Misty breaks down angel curriculum including go-to-market validation, fatal flaws like unassigned IP, and biotech timeline realities while Sean asks clarifying follow-ups.
The Multi-Stage Screening Funnel and Due Diligence Progression 4500 Sean inquires about what distinguishes winning 3-minute pitches as Misty outlines the screening funnel progression from 30 companies down to final term sheet deliberations.
The Due Diligence Process and Navigating Startup NDAs 5724 Sean challenges investor resistance to NDAs by pointing out founder vulnerability. Misty counters by explaining why groups cannot sign NDAs and details third-party technical audit workarounds.
Deal Terms, Term Sheets, and Post-Investment Governance 4500 Sean asks about the mechanics of deal finalization and what derails deals at the finish line. Misty explains valuation renegotiations when rounds oversubscribe.
Fundraising Strategy: Coachability, Networks, and Investor Relations 4630 Misty passionately rejects standard advice like doing 90 pitches in 90 days, calling it ineffective while emphasizing relationship-building and local mentors.
The Meaningful Impact of Angel Investing: A Life-Saving Serendipity 3400 Sean invites Misty to recount the serendipitous grant project she supported nearly two decades earlier that eventually developed a mechanical kidney helping her own daughter.
Purpose-Driven Founders and Transformative Technologies 3400 Sean prompts Misty for concluding thoughts on what makes early-stage founders special before closing out the episode.

Statements from this episode (16)

Assertion Supported
Rusk: San Diego Angel Conference Raised Over $300K From 125 Applicants
“So this year we had a 125 companies. We're down to seven right now. We're about to, in a couple of weeks, we will pick the winner. And this year we've raised over 300,000 titled as a winner take all”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 4:33
Insight
Rusk: Local Startup Ecosystems Already Have the Resources Needed to Thrive
“We don't need some outside program from some, you know, big, you know, governmental agency or some, you know, white horse riding across the horizon to come and save the day. The resources that we need, we already have. We just needed to figure out how to put t…”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 6:29
Assertion Contradicted
SEC Rule Expands Accredited Investor Status to Industry Risk Experts
“So new administrative rule by the Securities Exchange Commission. If you are working in a space where it is you have a fundamental understanding of the risk that you're taking on, you can consider yourself an accredited investor. Those floodgates have opened.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 7:42
Insight
Rusk: Angel Investors Must Identify and Mitigate Risks Rather Than Seek Rejection
“It's super easy to look at any kind of angel investing deal and get to a no. Like you can imagine a way a company can fail, right? And there are the things that are super real that you can see, like, you know, there's a hole in the management team or the go to…”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 8:05
Insight
Rusk: Pitching 'One Percent of the Market' Is a Terrible Answer
“Think there's only really one answer to that, and it's sales, and if your answer as an entrepreneur is, well, if we just get one percent of the market, that's a really crappy answer.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 9:57
Insight
Rusk: Good biotech projects take seven to nine years to reach milestones
“Turns out it's more like seven to nine years on a good biotech project to see it to the next conclusion.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 11:48
Insight
Rusk: Three-Minute Startup Pitches Require Storytelling and a Path to 10-50X Returns
“In a three minute pitch, it's almost impossible to cover those five, which means you have to be able to tell a good story about it. There has to be an emotional connection, a market opportunity that's really substantial, and a path to success that creates the …”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 15:08
Insight
Angel Investors Should Never Sign Startup NDAs
“Every investor that we've ever trained, we've said never sign an NDA because you have no idea what you're limiting yourself to, and that will preclude you from being able to look at anything else in the future.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 16:28
Insight
Use Independent Experts Under NDA to Evaluate Proprietary Software
“The workaround is like, if we're doing something like software and the secret sauce is really in the algorithms, then we're probably as an investor group, we're going to contract with an outside third party that the entrepreneur agrees with that's not investin…”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 16:39
Assertion Supported
Rusk: Spending Over 20 Hours on Due Diligence Yields Higher Investment Success
“If you spend, you know, more than 20 hours doing due diligence, the success of the investment is going to be higher. I don't remember how much it is, but it's like a double digit percentage higher.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 17:51
Insight
Rusk: Angel deals require at least information rights and regular reporting
“At the very least there's some kind of information rights and An expectation that on whatever regular basis they decide that the entrepreneur is going to report back to the investors about the progress of the company and financial performance and sales and tho…”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 20:48
Insight
Rusk: Angel investments rarely fall apart after a positive due diligence recommendation
“If you get all the way to negotiating the terms and you get to the end of the due diligence process, usually if the recommendation is to invest in the company, you don't usually see that get undone.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 21:09
Insight
Oversubscription and Legal Limits Are Top Late-Stage Deal Blockers
“If there's anything that stops it, probably that entrepreneur hits the limit on what they've lined out legally in the round, and they have to pause the process and figure out how to navigate that with investors.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 21:44
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rusk: Startup investors almost never fund solo entrepreneurs
“Startup investors almost never fund solo entrepreneurs.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 22:25
Insight
Rusk: Pitch materials highlighting product over company upside should be scrapped
“If you go back and you look at the materials you put together to talk with investors about, if you take a look at it and it reads like a sales pitch for the product, it's time to scrap that and start again. Investors are looking for what the upside is. For the…”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 22:31
Opinion
The '90 Pitches in 90 Days' Fundraising Strategy Is a Myth
“The rule used to be used to hear in like old time investors say, oh, you got to do 90 pitches in 90 days. Like it takes, it's going to take that. I think that's a load of crap. I don't think that works well. I don't think it works at all.”
Misty Rusk Jun 8, 2021 ▶ 22:52
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