Tim Schumacher, co-founder of SaaS Group, discusses target profitability and margins across their software portfolio with Nathan Latka.
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“We always strive for profit margins somewhere. 20 to 30%.”
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“We have tons of cash. We're just doing every deals, doing deals all hundred percent debt. So we're not, because we're not putting things into SPVs or special purpose vehicle. We're not a PE company. We're really just always, always investing from our own balan…”
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“Cross Talon out of French bankruptcy and Zen Lube out of German bankruptcy.”
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“Eight on nine X is very rare. I think we did this one on a very small deal, which had strategic importance. And it was growing very fast, but usually, yeah, two to four is pretty accurate. There's some a little lower than that. There's some a little higher, bu…”
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“We don't, we always do a hundred percent. So we are not, that's the core difference. Like if you would get, go to a private equity company, they would take a significant minority or a majority. And then they would flip the company three years later after they'…”
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